we need new clans - fast!!! (Page 3 of 4)

In my opinion, people should help each other. Find some medium skilled players which have time and they really want to play, not the ones which will play for month and not anymore, and train them. Play with them on your trainings and help to be better. As one of ProTeeGy leaders I would say only one thing - If you want to play with us, just find one of our members. Medium or low skilled players are also needed in our clan. We are looking for someone who would like to play better and spend time in good atmosphere (no trolls needed). We have also a ts3 server in which we can create a channel for your clan. Just speak to me or Flubber in game.

sounds like we kicked you for being a total faggot, live with it
we dont kick everyone, just guys like you who immediately join a game, flame when moved to spec and generally behave like a mentally retarded

Gotta love AMN for that

That remembers me of 2 anti-clan players.
Chi1's and daniel's attitude: "you guys became a way too elite. Being elite is good, but not enough; there's no way to reach you, because there's no way to play against you." Skill is developing equal to your enemy. x)

Well its true, that crap games really destroyed vanilla, since every unknown tee got kicked, but you need to face the other side as well. When cap games came up, right after funwar-nations-crap finished the ctf2 scene was most active. Players wanted to play good and long lasting games, which were kinda balanced. Therefore newbies were kicked. Tw provides most fun, if you play against an even enemy. Thats what cap games were based on. The only annoying thingy on those crap games are the whole waiting periods. You have to wait till your team has been chosen, tees being afk every 5 min, .... . Never ending Story

I liked the old ckz-server most of all, because good and long lasting public games came up at least twice a day.
Imo vanilla did not die because of us kicking newbies, but because of Tw turning into a chat and meet your internet buddies game. DDrace, City mods, Blockwar/DDraceblock or whatever its called (most stupid mod ever seen) have nothing to do with a retro shooter. Face the fact, if you start Tw you have 70% ddrace, 10% instagib, 2-3 infection servers, 5-6 zcatch servers + a couple different dm/ctf servers.

Todays players are not interested in vanilla tw, but in fooling around. Since there's no league or goal, like giga-liga provided for most germans. Most players have no atrraction to get better.

offtopic: There's no point in raving against a gametype you don't personally like.

ontopic: We will offer a 24/7 server of any gametype to any USA clan of at least 4 committed players.

So, let's start with ctf6. You guys are flaming around about how bad that map is or that it isn't that good. But why didn't we change it for such a long time? I wanna remind you one topic, where i involved an idea to remake ctf6 map yourselves. Only me and one more guy have done that. And after all no1 didn't even comment those remakes. So i'm pretty sure that vanilla community is just too lazy to care about it. It's fine playing ctf2, so why should we think about some foreign map? Looks like a true story, but teeworlds developers are even more lazy, so we seem to be the only force that can move this rock out of its current place. I'm trying to develop a map for wc3, so i know what means lazy: you meet some errors, you have no idea what is the reason and you just leave this s..t for 2-3 months. So do not hope someone to replace you, if you have time and interest - do this.
Now, about the clan scene. Why clans are dying? Let's look at little bit deeper. Everyone has it's own life and interests. I personally left Teeworlds to play LoL (yeah, just like iB), and because i was bored to complain again and again with rustnab banning me on each server possible. So who else will leave Teeworlds this way? As you can see, there's a lot of players that do. When more than two players of the same clan do this at the same time, clan stops it's existing. Community met two ways to create a long-living clan:
1) Make it a label. For the long two years Qi was the clan who could beat anyone. By seeing a Qi tag you could say - it's a top top player. I even thought this clan can exist without any members. It is all about the politics of the clan: we are best, and we take best, and if you think we aren't - fail competing us. This was working for a two years, but nothing is infinite.
2) Make a big clan. This doesn't mean you should take everyone. This means you have to select the group of players you are able to take, and then spread the information about  the whole community that this clan exists and is recruiting. That's the politics of EVIL and Z-team, and they work fine. Even b switching their lineup twice a day, they are still able to impress other clans with their skill. I was actually following Z-team for the whole time they existed, so i know how many players passed through this. And nearly all of them was pretty good.
So as you can see, these are two models of the long-existing clan. Most of other clans are a temporary group of players or perhaps a team fighting together. To be a static formation you need something more, listed above. I think high scene should think about it before creating a new bunch of clans.
The third question is mods. I think it's the stuff which destroys the Teeworlds itself. You just come in here and meet a choise: go to the arrogant ctf2 community or easy and fun mode like ddrace you expected to see here in such a fun shining game. I think the choise is obvious. But saying that ctf2 community should change is strange: why should pro players care about noobs? It's common for any online game: you wait until you become good or you say "screw that" and leave. Look at quakelive: trying to play there for a first time wll turn out in flying arond like a dummy from one rocket to another. I'm pretty sure 80% of the newcomers just don't want to continue playing. But here you come, make an obvious choise and stay playing noob modes. Even those 20% are gone. I have no idea what can we do about all of this, but it is obviously a big trouble we have to deal with.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Move ddrace to its own master server and you'll lose fewer vanilla players to it. DDrace has nothing to do with teeworlds and getting that abomination of a mod out of the server list is the only way to stop it spreading like a disease.

Whoa, whoa, calm down. People complaining here are not the one who are making decisions about that, and it's VERY unlikely that a gametype would ever get banned from the masterservers, unless it's broadcasting itself as pure or faking players.

No one of the developpers is begging for ur help
and if the game is boring for u now, why do u still playing?
the time of reign is over, nobody cares about a "king"!
bye. would be good to everyone if u leave.

Oh.. Rus kicked someone ?!!! cant be truth !!!!!!! xDD
wow [...]

And hey, i thought the Topic was about Clans.
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I just love rusterrorist's aggressive stance

Kottizen: instead of saying all the time u should just close the topic or delete all OT posts. Also u should read the posts before deciding to ban ppl because of flaming.

sry for OT... seriously close this shit here.. nobody will talk about clans here anymore... -.-

I didn't ask you presonally to make sth, rustnab. Just asking some1 to do that, some1 who cares about this game.