26 (edited by CarmineZ 2011-03-04 16:02:12)

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any anti-cheat client side is just impossible, might be secure for few month, but after someone will hack it

little Example: Why and How all important (also not free) programs are cracked? Why they just not use same type of your protection?

the simple reply is: because is impossible have a perfect protection!

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CarmineZ wrote:

any anti-cheat client side is just impossible, might be secure for few month, but after someone will hack it

little Example: Why and How all important (also not free) programs are cracked? Why they just not use same type of your protection?

the simple reply is: because is impossible have a perfect protection!

In one sentence, matricks said:

We cannot trust the client

And that said it all!

Not Luck, Just Magic.

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@Bananbl4
We decided to refine the right set of updates (including English translation), and then later spread to the network. Apologies for the delay.

@ghost91
Well, I think this is a better alternative than the same TTC. We could easily incorporate anti-cheat in the game client, but after small updates all have to get again entire game client. In my opinion - it is easier to use a separate program.
For other OS - I'm sorry, but at the moment we can not do it. Maybe in the future it will be realized, but not soon.

@Dune
Through the program, we are defending the game client from injections into the memory game, which means protection from the majority of hacking techniques.

@CarmineZ
Well, we already know how to hack not yet published version ... this is normal and inherent in any other software ... but we are fully confident that in the near future, it does not break without any special knowledge in the field of computer security

@Dune
I can say is that I can not trust to "matricks". and what?
What did the developers to fully secure TW-client? nothing. said that the project is open source and nothing to do with it. all in the hands of enthusiasts. here is the players themselves must choose a cheat

@all
We do not claim to be the best anti-cheat. We have released an alternative.
Following the release (which will most likely tomorrow), we can move the project into the status of "private" (for his). You was not appreciated it.

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i really appreciate it and also your effort, but I have serious doubts because nobody here can guarantee it will work forever. A skilled hacker tamper your application so as to appear fair and in the meantime use cheat/bot

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I can say is that I can not trust to "matricks". and what?
What did the developers to fully secure TW-client? nothing. said that the project is open source and nothing to do with it. all in the hands of enthusiasts. here is the players themselves must choose a cheat

Matricks is just the dad of Teeworlds - well he was as he's not developping anymore. Once again, it shows your huge knowledge of how the Teeworlds development is going on.

Exactly. They did not do anything to provide anti-bot protection because it's a worthless fight. And releasing unsafe clients saying "hey it's the best I can do it's probably safe you say it's not but can you do better? no then shut up." will not help at all.

Through the program, we are defending the game client from injections into the memory game, which means protection from the majority of hacking techniques.

It's the third time you avoid the two others points.

What's about a protection against proxys? Why couldn't we just sniff the traffic?
Also, what did you do against pixel bots?

Releasing nothing is better than releasing an unsafe crappy client (eg TTC, and I assume my mistake).

Not Luck, Just Magic.

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Cadr wrote:

What did the developers to fully secure TW-client? nothing. said that the project is open source and nothing to do with it. all in the hands of enthusiasts. here is the players themselves must choose a cheat

They did nothing? Oh my god. They did soo much. Teeworlds doesnt trust the client. Look at others games where things like speedhacks can simply be created... The only thing that teeworlds does not do against cheaters is counter-measuring. But to claim that matricks and the others did nothing is wrong.

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Yes, I'm sorry if someone hurt in a hurry to answer. I did not have enough time (a lot of cases is offline), so I can not alone ensure the project and promote it. if anyone would be interested - if he can help me with this ...