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A couple of things here. First of all, this is a good discussion. It is nice to see some communication between the current devs and the players.

To everyone talking about adding maps or tilesets, etc, please realize that this would result in a larger game, with a larger download and so on. Teeworlds was designed to be a small game. I agree that a couple new maps would be nice, but I wouldn't mind seeing a few official maps removed such as some of the DM maps . For the purposes of vanilla, ctf4 is pretty much non existent. I saw a whole 3 vanilla servers with ctf4 last night.

I have to agree with the sentiment that the grenade is too powerful. Despite its pitfalls, new players find it nearly impossible to kill a flag carrier who runs around spamming grenades behind them everywhere they go. I have seen CTF 5 games where someone holds onto the flag for over 15 minutes. This is not good imo. And of course, as pretty much everyone has agreed, the powerup needs fixed to be more useful.

In terms of the code, I don't see how the devs could possibly release 0.5.3 when so many things have changed. If a new gametype such as Race could be included relatively soon and a couple things get updated I say wait for a little while longer and release 0.6.

Why can't I type letters with accents in tw-trunk?
Let's say I wanna type "sábio" it outputs "s´abio".
Anything with ´~ ^ won't work

I agree with you Taavi, the behavior of a majority of the Vanilla/instagib players is pretty bad.

But some aren't

Also, DDRace has a bunch of kiddies that crash servers and votekick and stuff. Though that's fixed. They always ask for helper... and annoying.

Vanilla = more b*tches

DDRace = more kiddies

My thoughts about the gfx / map discussion:
Even if you are very used to create teeworlds-gfx, e.g. like Landil, a tileset or some doodads need lots of work. What you most often do not remeber is that the new images have to fit into the current graphic-landscape. Even if you are doing game / tee skins, place your result ingame next to the default tees and check if they look as from the same game. Then you will see that's quite hard to get a good mixture of elements, commonly accepted as teeish.

Same goes for the maps. That dude that requested to have more official maps (too lazy to scroll up, sry) did also mention that a lot of maps are buggy. Furthermore, many are ugly, so you get eye cancer or glaucoma by playing it. So please, show me some maps that are eye candy, well-tiled and balanced at the same time. Open a new thread in the maps-subforum, I'd be happy!

And I always wonder, If anybody of you had played teeworlds, if the vanilla client, if the standard graphics were replaced with some random bullshit gfx and maps. I do not think so!

So for that ppl that ask for - what has this to do with the topic: Accept that the official part is the "creme de la creme", outstanding graphics, outstanding maps. And that may take a while. Fullstop. Glad to see that some changes will be put in a v5.3. I appreciate that descision.

What's about cheats_on, truely a command on DDRace?
If you think what makes a mod good is the abscence of cheating, then go make a Chess mod.

Those guys exist everywhere, not only in DDrace. I'd say, vanilla pro players are the most arrogant players out there, only because they think, they are "something better". I won't say any names, but there several people who I really disslike.

Before all speculate about how far the development is you should  talk to Oy.
Sushi wrote that nothing is done for 0.6 yet, thats not true. As far as i know 0.6 is not so far away.
I totally agree with Taavi, teeworlds is full of cheater and aimbots are one of many problems.
To avoid  some of those problems, like votehacks, servercrashs, cloneclients and some other things 0.5 trunk is a good way till 0.6 is really released.
In my opinion its stable enough to replace 0.52 as newest verison. Call it 0.53 or 0.5 trunk nobody will care about the name
Discussing about wich mods are shit and wich not wont find an end. Some people  like vanilla, some instagib and others like to race.
But as a matter of fact the by many vanilla player not liked instagib (wich needs no skill in the opinion of some) is more played than vanilla itself.
Some of the people who develope teeworlds were in the past instagib player, like landil, lappi, oy and others, it didnt seem that  they disliked it cuz they spend many days and nights playing. (Lost)
In my opinion it should matter what the people like to play  and not only  a dictatorship like  : we wont support mods! vanilla rulez. Thats narrow-minded.
Everybody should play what he likes and the most played gametypes should be supported.
Democracy should be the right word here.

nope i did uderstand but it  seems like some ppl here are not rly up to date, i spoke to oy lately and it seems like hes about to finish in the near future.
when i read trough this thread and believe whats said by some it seems like 0.6 is far far away but it isnt.

for example by u :

"0.6 will still take a long time since nothing (really nothing) is done for 0.6."

"original and simple game play innovations are needed. 0.6 seems far from release and noone wants to touch the network"

You can't say RACE is a balanced gametype as well as CTF, DM, instagib etc, the mod itself is nothing, it's all about the maps.

Exactly why a 0.5.3 release would be nice, even if there are lot of fixes/changes you would like to see in the next version and aren't already implemented, what the hell is the problem with freezing the trunk and releasing it? It's not like saying we will never do those changes, and I guess organizing a release doesn't take a month of work.

0.6 is very far! look at github issues with tag 0.6.... Maybe many of theese issues have a simple solution, or someone have already found and written how to solve, but nobody can send a "pull request" for 0.6 project! So i think that Oy should create a parallel branch, than, implementation of the new feature, for 0.6 version, will can start.....

How can u say very far if i wrote before oy told me its close?
in my few days here in the forum it seems to me like communication between developer and community is very inactive.
It seems like nobody here really knows whats going on, only oy himself