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Topic: [QUESTION] Am I doing a good job?

As time progresses and I've been here for a while now I was wondering what opinion the community has about my moderatorship (or moderation in general). Be free to speak you mind about things like:

• Response time (to reports, PMs, topics that need attention)
• Moderator controlled topics like the suggestion topic, the FAQ or the clan topic
• Ways to contact us when required
• Other issues which we might improve on

This doesn't have to be a "100% you're great" topic, if there is some critique I would love to hear it so we can either improve on that or at least have it as a reminder during future situations.

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You should be online at IRC.

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The only thing I wasn't sure about is if you really have to post a warning for ever comment made in old topics. But besides that I think your doing a great job. I think all moderators could ask that of the community. smile

Give others the respect you wish to be respected with. In the mean time, enjoy the website!

4 (edited by Crises 2010-01-20 21:51:05)

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I agree with Captain AMN.
Don't be that soft, be severe to ppl which spamming in this forum!

ilili wrote:

Oh, and you should really get yourself a teeworlds-related avatar big_smile

uhm... this Avatar isnt that nice (took me only 10 minutes) but its Teeworlds related - use this Avatar if you want wink

http://saved.im/mtu3mtc4zwi3/skeleton_bad.png

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Yeah, that's one of the best posts AMN wrote. I have to admit that you're sometimes too friendly. Spam posts and low-quality posts are supposed to be banned/removed more quickly.

Antoine de Saint Exupéry: It seems that perfection is reached not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
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Well, It's very annoying when my caps get removed.......
Joking aside, your doing a good job I guess, but please have a look at the so-called "old topic" before you write a warning. It really annoyed me.
Oh, and you should really get yourself a teeworlds-related avatar big_smile

This old fellow has left this forum to find his way somewhere else. Don't search for him, he'll be fine. Probably. But don't forget him or his deeds (if there are any deeds...)! Never forget the good old ilili.....http://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=6460

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Captain AMN wrote:
ilili wrote:

Oh, and you should really get yourself a teeworlds-related avatar big_smile

Sounds like a job for me.

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You don't need to thank me. Use it with pride.

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Captain AMN wrote:

(e.g. Bee smile )

...

On another note: Exactly what would that look like? For I know that many people have a hard time with finding a middle ground and usually go from one extreme to the opposite extreme. I'm not saying you would do that, but maybe some helpful ideas on what that would look like?

Give others the respect you wish to be respected with. In the mean time, enjoy the website!

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I know you didn't ask for a "100% you're great" topic. But I like what you've done for the Teeworlds community since today.
You are very quick to answer to report but, by the way, it's not possible to do everything fast. Your work is great, but I think the forum need more moderators: one is not enough, sometimes.
What else... I approve the idea of the tee-style avatar tongue
About what Amn said... it's true, sometimes. Expecially in the "custom content" sections. I think the forum should have a "minimum quality level", and everyone should respect rules (expecially the "english-only rule", which is never respected).
I love your work with the restyling of the clan page, the FAQs and so on... this is the way!

Just an idea: instead of work hard for sum double or triple posts in a row by the same user, there isn't an option in punBB, like in many other forum CMS, to prevent this? Some forums do it automatically.

Support Staff - ESL.eu Teeworlds Admin

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Heh, what do you call this, Irony ? People going offtopic in the thread of a moderator, thats like jumping into the Lion-cage in the zoo, because ur cookie fell there.

And now about moderation: I think you are doing a really good job, but some of the things AMN mentioned really annoy me too. I have an idea regarding this, but its not really related to moderation. Ill make a topic about that idea later.

On the other side, are there any other active moderators ? If not, the admin-mod team could sit down together (at irc perhaps) and talk about possible recruits. People who have a common sense and are willing to help etc.

We will meet again when the flowers spread their glorious scent of victory and the birds sing us the melody of justice...

11 (edited by yemDX 2010-01-20 23:10:37)

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AMN, Bee is just trying to help the forums. It's not like you've made any good maps, or anything, for that matter. Besides those crappy avatars.

Also, Azon you're doing an okay job. Haven't seen much bad.

Ex-King of Teeworlds

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torch wrote:

Heh, what do you call this, Irony ? People going offtopic in the thread of a moderator, thats like jumping into the Lion-cage in the zoo, because ur cookie fell there.

And now about moderation: I think you are doing a really good job, but some of the things AMN mentioned really annoy me too. I have an idea regarding this, but its not really related to moderation. Ill make a topic about that idea later.

On the other side, are there any other active moderators ? If not, the admin-mod team could sit down together (at irc perhaps) and talk about possible recruits. People who have a common sense and are willing to help etc.

Both me and Azon are actively moderating the forum currently, although Azon are faster than me most times. Magnet is doing most admin work.

Official Teeworlds map developer and community moderator
Administrator for the Teeworlds community Teesites

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Well first of all thanks for these fast and useful answers. Let's see if we can get some things listed:

Kottizen wrote:

You should be online at IRC.

Would this really be a way of getting in contact with the community? As you know I was on IRC for quite a while, but I was only rarely contacted for forum-related business. I really like the idea of an active presence, but it seems that this is more needed for developers then for moderators. Still, if more community members have this need then it wouldn't be too much trouble to turn it back on.

|X-treme|Bee wrote:

The only thing I wasn't sure about is if you really have to post a warning for ever comment made in old topics.

Well these warnings serve two purposes. First of all they are a way for the moderators to track in which post a certain rule violation was made, so that we can find it back when a multitude of rule violations has stacked to an amount that requires more serious measures. Secondly they form a warning for the person that made the rule violation. As with every forum there are many users who somehow fail to read and appreciate the forum rules. These warnings seem like a decent way to get the message out that they made a certain mistake on which they should try to improve in the future. Maybe this could change with a different forum structure, but for now this is the only way I see it function.

Captain AMN wrote:

Me, and the whole community in general is tired of very low quality posts spamming the whole forum with useless maps and questions that have been answered a lot of times before.

This is indeed something that has been on my mind too, as I can understand that if it's not a problem already it will most certainly be one for the future. The positive is that with the FAQ in place and probably expanding over time good ol' questions like "How to make a server?" and "How to test a map?" can be closed with a link to the FAQ.
Things could become more difficult with low-quality custom content and artworks as closing these leads to a two-sided dilemma. On the one side they pull the high quality standard down and do to some degree "spoil" the forum, which is bad. On the other side this forum is probably one of the few places where these unexperienced artists can get some kind of feedback on their work and hopefully manage to improve themselves to some kind of standard.
What I could do for now is stick more strict to the specific graphic and map forum rules, but I'll need the help of the community with that. If you report the custom content and art work which doesn't follow the rules or in general is of too low quality to be good, we'll see what can be done to improve on this. Another possible solution could be a "high quality" forum, in which only the top notch custom content will be displayed. Then the community could contact me about the custom content which you think should go to this high quality forum and if more people agree it can be moved. I would love to hear comments on this suggestion so we can see what the potential is.

Captain AMN wrote:

As a result of the before-mentioned, you should bring more attention to important topics which are of great benefit for the game.

This is certainly something which could be done, but again, I would really like to hear the communities input for deciding which topic needs to be up for a few weeks. Originally stickies were only meant for topics that need to be up 24/7 but I can understand why some remarkable events like the Archuser Review need to stand on top for a while. Be free to contact me whenever you or anyone else finds that a topic deserves this.

ilili wrote:

Oh, and you should really get yourself a teeworlds-related avatar big_smile

I guess this is something I delayed for much too long, I'll see what can be done about this.

Lanta wrote:

Your work is great, but I think the forum need more moderators: one is not enough, sometimes.

Well together with Chi11y and Magnet I think there isn't that much ground we can't cover so I'm not sure whether this is a huge need. But we could bring this up for discussion at some point.

Lanta wrote:

Just an idea: instead of work hard for sum double or triple posts in a row by the same user, there isn't an option in punBB, like in many other forum CMS, to prevent this? Some forums do it automatically.

This could very well be the case, but I don't have access to the adminstrator level of the forum so I don't know about this. Maybe Magnet can take a look at that.

I think this covers most of the proposed suggestions, and in general I think that some of these can become reality if we work together. You can use the report function for much more then just rule violations, but also for suggestions for stickies or other relevant comments. There is no penalty for making a "wrong" Report. Also PM is one of the easiest ways to come in contact with me about these issues.

Be free to give more pointers on which I (together with the forum) could improve as I really think this will lead to interesting insights.

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Azon wrote:
Captain AMN wrote:

As a result of the before-mentioned, you should bring more attention to important topics which are of great benefit for the game.

This is certainly something which could be done, but again, I would really like to hear the communities input for deciding which topic needs to be up for a few weeks. Originally stickies were only meant for topics that need to be up 24/7 but I can understand why some remarkable events like the Archuser Review need to stand on top for a while. Be free to contact me whenever you or anyone else finds that a topic deserves this.

I still think if a topic has 5 or more [+]s, should be highlighted/bolded/underlined. Or whatever combination you think of. It wouldn't stay longer, but people can see which topics are high rated.

Give others the respect you wish to be respected with. In the mean time, enjoy the website!

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as said many times before you realy need to get a teeworlds related avatar. a skull with crossbones um thats just um kinda scary

i realy have no idea what to put here

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come more often online in Skype pls (sry bad english)

17 (edited by fazer! 2010-04-23 02:27:08)

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tee_burger wrote:

YO BEE!! sup man smile long time no see -_-

Uhh you should post what this topic is about. You can talk to bee later.
@ Azon, I think you need no change, the way you are modding is the right way. Continue you work.
+1 Azon

USA pride. What now.

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We acctully really need more Moderators, I havent seen any mod online since a week ago now. we really need more.

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CandleJack wrote:

We acctully really need more Moderators, I havent seen any mod online since a week ago now. we really need more.

Maybe you can't see them, but they are working for you and the community behind the scene. They don't need to be "active posters", they are simply doing their job. Ok, maybe sometimes they fail cuz they don't follow all the situations, but I think they are enough at the moment.

Support Staff - ESL.eu Teeworlds Admin

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i  posted Name request long ago!
Alot of useless topic should be closed, (look in Content:other o.O)

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CandleJack wrote:

i  posted Name request long ago!
Alot of useless topic should be closed, (look in Content:other o.O)

You should look at the report function, it's the best direct way to contact moderators.
Oh, by the way, about your name change... I've seen there was a discussion and it didn't seems you were sure. I think Azon wanna wait your decision and let you time for thinking about it.

Support Staff - ESL.eu Teeworlds Admin

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CandleJack wrote:

We acctully really need more Moderators, I havent seen any mod online since a week ago now. we really need more.

Excuse me? I'm doing quite heavy moderating daily, I'm just not very verbose about when and where I moderate. I don't have the permissions for namechanging, and I think it's extremely worthless to begin with, so I'm not responsible for that.

Pepperoni moderates in a similar fashion (he's even quieter than me).

EDIT: I may add that reports are very welcome. They reduce the (too long) time I have to spend on keeping the forums clean enough.

EDIT2: Way to talk btw, just today I removed a post made by you because it was a useless necrobump, CandleJack.

Official Teeworlds map developer and community moderator
Administrator for the Teeworlds community Teesites

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Calm down, it was just an suggestion.

Account inactive since 11/8
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As has been said in a different topic, moderation was less then normal due to my absence. Things will probably return to normal over the next few days.

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Chi11y wrote:
CandleJack wrote:

We acctully really need more Moderators, I havent seen any mod online since a week ago now. we really need more.

Excuse me? I'm doing quite heavy moderating daily, I'm just not very verbose about when and where I moderate. I don't have the permissions for namechanging, and I think it's extremely worthless to begin with, so I'm not responsible for that.

Pepperoni moderates in a similar fashion (he's even quieter than me).

EDIT: I may add that reports are very welcome. They reduce the (too long) time I have to spend on keeping the forums clean enough.

EDIT2: Way to talk btw, just today I removed a post made by you because it was a useless necrobump, CandleJack.

i didnt say u did a bad work o.O

Well anyways, i keep to my suggestion
btw, maybe just finding a mod is hard.

Account inactive since 11/8
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