[QUIZ] New Z-Team Pack - help us to develop it!

1) Zpack.
2) I've tried all the mod client avaiable. I love them all, expecially the new TeeComp. I still use Zpack because I love the "reconnect" function and the script system. Nothing more, but I wanna see more improvements.
3) YES YES and YES. And maybe Mumble client too... would be awesome.
4) Just some ideas: best new function from TeeComp / Beep chat funcion of Sushi pack / radar idea from "ideas for next version" thread. Spectators function like follow and zoom (like now, changing background color to something better). Quake sounds if broadcasted or server chat message are saying "killing spree" or "rampage" or something similar. Maybe with sample sound, to not break copyright, then we could replce them
I like your work, keep goin' on

1. Teeworlds Client Pack (by Sushi)
2. Beep mod (by sushi, a special chat-sound and color if someone writes for example "unlim"), Automatic endgame screenshot and auto demo recording, demo of the best time (race-maps), Client-Id in scoreboard (useful for admins), Anti-Rainbow, colored name plates (Teecomp) and also HUD-Mod for demo recording while replay.
3. I think it's not needed. Something like ts or mumble maybe but those people who want can join the irc channel seperate.
4. -ingame server browser
-the things under 2. of the client pack
-demo cutting function (?)

I don't know exactly if some of this things are implemented yet because I only used z-pack a short time.

unlim

1. Client pack by Sushi Tee.
2. Because we can change many features like teamcolor, flag, etc.
3. No. It would be too big.
4. I don't know. Maybe look at other posts and take inspiration about them

Seriously, try to get as many clean patches as possible and submit them for inclusion in mainline teeworlds. This way you will help teeworlds development and will not fragment the community with different (and some times incompatible) client version.

Just my 0.02€

Hi there,

A few comments.

1) Since TW is currently being refactored, it would make sense to wait for the refactoring to be complete (that is, very soon) before starting anything time-consuming. This time if your patches are clean, we could commit them to the official client (and improve the backing server-side features, like providing stats since game start).

2) I don't download / test the alternative clients out there, but one thing for sure, some features (including the auto -reconnect) don't seem legit to me (any I consider server polling option to be illegitimate and a disrespect to server admins) and I will gladly remove the download links to any client harboring those features. If the current Z-Pack provides it, I will remove the link now.

3) There's also the fact that the scripting feature itself seems to provide a way to use variables about a tee status (and making bind with current health / shields) that is very much cheating.

If you make those features available, don't post the client here. I can't do anything about it if it's on your forum, but at least mods provided here should be legit (as for people using those cheating clients, it's tricky for admins to ban them from their servers, I'm afraid the only solution is banning Russia altogether since Russian players are almost all using that client and they're the almost only ones ).

Cheating is not only providing aimbots / wall-hacks whatsoever, it's also providing more than the official client does as far as gameplay is concerned, because it provides everything that is fair already.

So there are two kinds of things I'll remove:
- Non-cheating features that are abusing resources (auto rejoin, auto join when free slot), removing fairness (auto vote yes), distracting gameplay (rainbow colors).
- Cheating features that provide an advantage however slight it might be (minimap, in-game zooming out, team colored projectiles, scripting that provides descriptive variables about the current game, and of course all forms of auto-aiming, etc).

You are free to post a modded client that does not infringe here or do whatever you want elsewhere and tell your potential users that they may get banned from servers who actually enforce rules about cheaters.

I'd appreciate if anyone can point to me which clients currently available on the forum are infringing. The only alternative one that I tested is Teecomp (official version. Stats & following spectators are OK) and I don't see anything infringing.

Finally, I'd like to add that if you provide your patches in the official client, you can have other people checking the legitimacy of the features and thus discard anything that is wrong .

1) Z-Mod!

2) It has all I Need + a best scoreboard, and automatic reconnect function (only serious adds)! 

3) YOU CRAZY??? Off-course, you can't remove it! But you can add an option to do that

4)
- Anti-Bot Protection.
- Anti-Spam Protection.
- Anti-Rainbow protection.
- Auto-Rejoin.   
- Spree Messages  - 5, 8, 10, 13, and 15 kills -> Monster Kill, Killing Spree, Unstoppable, Ram Page, God Like (Example).
- Sushi's Beep Chat System. (From Client-Pack)
- Spl0k's Speed Calculator. (From Client-Pack)
- Chat - On/Off Setting.
- Exact Colors - Black, White, Red, etc...
- Demo Cutting.
- Hearts, Shields, Bullets for different weapons statics on the left up corner. (seen it somewhere)
- Some More Filters.
- Try a better Font.

5) What you should keep!

- The Background - Or even make it better.
- The Scoreboard - Probably the best Scoreboard EVER.
- The 1 on 1 Scores - Down Right Corner.

Settings you should keep!

- Default Skin Only.
- New Background + Choice of which.
- New Detailed Scoreboard.
- Auto Demo Recording.
- Auto End Game Screenshot.

Render all your settings, away from others under your own tab named Z-team.

Let this Ultimate Z-mod be ready for download when the new TW version is ready for download!

Knock 'em out B

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Yeah mb you have a point there, but ain't there a way to avoid this by putting in the next version (talking bout the next version of the official client) a notification to the admin, so when the admin sees it, he decides what is best to do with that IP?

Well mb it's gonna be a laugh you know: Banned before even got in the server xD, but still think about it.

It's quiz, not discussion -_- But okay.
> Less server stress = less lag = more fun.
Do you know, that auto-join feature better that "refresh" button? For example, you very-very want to join some server. If you're pressing "refresh" every second (as many players), then:
1. client asked masterserver for server list
2. client asked every server for information about server
Every if you'll refresh not full serverlist, but only favorite servers list, you ask server for info.
But if you're using auto-join feature, your game client will try to connect to the server. And that's all! You don't stress masterserver and all servers in list. Traffic is less than if you're get server info.
Of course, you can press "connect" button and don't press "refresh". But it will be same as auto-join
I don't know how to explain you, Magnet and Rajh that it's not cheating, abusing, spamming, dos-attacking feature. I think, that it's useful feature.
Also i don't know why providing info about tee status to the scripts is cheating. But... Magnet, will it be okay if info about _your_ tee and only some info about other tees (such as nickname, skin, team) will be provided to the scripts? I mean, for example, scripts can get info about your position, but not about position of other players or flags.

No, because as you said, you have to press connect; autojoin is automatic, so you can go afk and it will still try to join. And you can enter a server and take a slot while you're still afk.

There's just no need for this feature since players can simply click.

About the masterserv flood, this is already mitigated when players use the favourite list which doesnt query the master servers. Also, the masterservers don't host game servers so it's less of a problem.

If you can make a bind with the scripts, say "Hey my position is a,b I have X hp and Y shields" then you provide competitive advantage, since in one key you provide more information than it is currently possible by typing or talking using voice chat. If we provide that feature in the official client later on, it will be OK because there will not be any competitive advantage anymore. As I said, the line is drawn to what is currently available in the official client.

What's more, the current official client prevents having bind for repetitive actions (for instance, firing) without user input (even if it could be better, it's not perfect now but it's better than it could be). If you were to use a general programming language for scripting (such as Lua), you would still have to disallow loops in user input to prevent some advantage to be gained.

So as I said, it seems to me that providing a real scripting backend is more hassle than it provides gains (on the client-side), and you could as well provide new commands for things that are lacking (like for instance, local user-defined variables, if-then-else conditions in bind definitions, etc).