[HELP] Aimbot discussion (Page 1 of 2)

Frist: making an antiaibot is not easy, i think that you don't even know how to progam a little gametype.
Second: Yes there are aimbotters, noob that can't win whit their own brains. The teeuser project get(if i had understand right, an blacklist where all aibotters ip's stands in so they can not join the TeeUser-servers.

this would make you maybe a little more happy, and i'm too sad that some loser's made aimbot's

yes but if all proxy's and IP's of him are banned xD what must he do than? go cry by teeuser?

totally agree..

there are only the huh servers left where instagib is palyed evry much..and i would say ca. 100players who play 1on1 instagib.. vanilla rules and is played more than instagib believe it..just look around the servers

if you klick in the server list on players so that the most are on top you ll see 4 or 5 servers with 14-16 players which play ctf on ctf5.. and 1 server with ictf on ctf2 with 9-12palyers.. just realize it.
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Sure there are noobs, but teeworlds doesnt has the rule: Dont chatkill(sure its annoying but you cant forbid it ..)and you even know that you are more skilled than those noobs. but you will always meet guys who cant accept rules or have fun to annoy other players. thats life... thats game...
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I dont know what we can do against aimbotters but i think that some smart braines of our tw players will find smth. i hope it... and if theres anything that we can do for it we should do it! and we should never give up our fight against the botters i know that we will win it.. anytime..

faithfully

,Sn@ZzY..

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wow thanks for + ..

There has been official answers to the aimbot problem and they are as follows:

Teeworlds is open source. That means that everyone is totally free to read all of the programming source, use it to create their own game or similar. This is how many projects work nowadays, such as linux, apache, firefox and games such as warsow, openarena etc. While this gives opportunity for more people to help improve the game. Open source has its flaws though, since anyone can see how the game is made, everyone would be able to see how an implemented anti-cheat system works. To put it short: it actually is impossible to create an anti-cheat system, since the aimbot creators can see exactly how it works, and circumvent it.

And yeah, I really recommend playing vanilla or survival, where there is literally no problems with aimbots.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing. However, I really enjoy instagib and I wish there was a way to block it.

An idea: there is a server mod that is not open source that people download if they want to host a server. It could stop aimbots my measuring the hit/miss ratio, and if the hits are over the top then it bans you. If a server did not install this mod, than it cannot become public.

@Kottizen: Not here Kottizen, not here...

@fazt-squirrel: That is what I do, but today I stepped my foot on one iCTF server. Freeze is hard to bot since there are the dummies which bot will aim unless it's teh freezebot which can't be found with a simple googling(atleast I didn't) like HookBot and some .dll bot.

@Daniel: matrick said he would ban such servers from the masterservers.

@hooker: I play survival too and you know that is a mod too. Vanilla, I am bad at it

This is indeed one of the more pressing issues for Teeworlds, and unfortunately there's no easy solution available. One thing people need to keep in mind though is that blaming it all on instagib as a mod won't solve things either, because as the popularity of these mods diminishes others will take it's place and those that don't care for fair play will find some other way to beg for attention. It would only kill one of the most popular mods Teeworlds has seen so far which would be against the interest of the whole community, whether you play the mod or not. The best advice is to stick to some of the more respected servers, which have committed players and decent around the clock administration. These will do everything in their powers to provide you with a userfriendly and respectable environment which will hopefully increase your gameplay experience.

Well... aimbots really got a problem for instagib but u cant be too angry about chatkillers in insta because if u dont chatkill he can kill u with 1 single shot and that would be really stupid... chatting is not necessary for playing tw ^^

Things that could be helpfull against bots:
Automatic kick all players with [bot] at the beginning of their name. If they put it there for fun its their fault.
Looking at the hit/miss of all shots os a player is not so good because aimbots will actually miss faster players.
Maybe a combination of hit miss and kills over wall bounces could be better...
Just some ideas

If you enable votekicking/banning, people will always kick you because you play very well and they think you've got an aimbot.

Actually there's NO WAY to protect a server from aimbots since Teeworlds is opensource. A time ago I had a client that could join servers with password and I was able to avoid bans and kicks. It still works in 0.5.1.

I think there's no discussion needed.

I don't, I want to play Teeworlds like I did 1 year ago, but I can't. I just have the client and it works, I don't use it.

By the way, who the hell is voting down all my posts?! This is a disussion, if you don't like something, tell me. Just voting down my post is like giving a pupile at school a [F] without writing down which mistakes he did.
This will not help on...

You could make an edited client that fakes the anti-cheat.
It would basicly tell the server "i use anticheat software" when it does not, won't really protect from much...

Well, it feels like this discussion isn't going anywhere.

There are no plans to create any kind of anti-cheat because of the open source nature of Teeworlds. Any kind of checksums requires the server to trust the client, and a cheating client isn't trustable. The best way to avoid cheaters is to play on respected servers with active admins and well-known players.

Topic closed.