1 (edited by Lanta 2009-06-02 19:50:06)

Topic: [TOURNAMENT] Fun War Opening Cup: ended!!!

The FunWar Opening Cup ended!!!!
We had several surprises, but all matches were played, and the TeeTV has done a very good job as well. (We've also tried to ban the cameraman from the server just before the final started tongue, very LOL).
We had some techical problems, and some players complained about the server's ping. We promise that in the future we'll provide better services.

http://www.cbc.ca/thehour/blog/images/Corrie_Winner.jpg
the http://funwar.tee-city.net/files/team/logo/9.png

Congratulations!!!!
The 2nd place goes to the Z-team. Good Game!

http://n3g.tee-city.net/ImageHost/image.php?id=EC21_4A22DD4F

TeeTV videos:
Qi vs Z part 1/2 http://blip.tv/file/2190127
Qi vs Z part 2/2 http://blip.tv/file/2190401

Stay tuned, the next cup will be even more fun!!!! big_smile
http://funwar.tee-city.net

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Was fun, no timelimit sucked though, and our score should be 0:1, because we decided bo1 since I didn't have time for more, and Golv wanted to continue the stream.

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@ Chilly:
No Timelimit was one of our better rules, beacuse with timelimit one team should lost time for win...  and the final was really exciting

because we decided bo1

you can't decide, the rules are bestof3 and you must do bestof3 big_smile I cant change it for the streaming... but the teetv does a very good job!!! ^^

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We wrote "bo1 accept?" and the opponents accepted, if you wish to call it an walkover, do so but seems stupid to me. The timelimit wasn't good at all, if there was a timelimit there could have been a schedule to follow, which would have helped greatly for me and others who can't spend whole evenings watching teetv and irc because we have other things to do too.

If there had been a timelimit, /anti-clan might have progressed since then we would have had time enough to do it bo3.

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First, it was a cool tournament, maybe a bit too long (6 games in a row for finalists). Congratulations to my teammates Drako & Huskil for this victory smile. It was also a good opportunity for us to test Brian who wants to join us. Congrats to him for his good performance. Nice games from our opponents too.


About timelimit: Timelimit is a very bad idea in CTF, it encourages a team to camp and play the time rather than CTF. If there was a timelimit, Qi would have 3 defenders and would win through timelimit using flag touches... Is that such a good idea ?

To sum up, timelimit makes CTF games boring to play and to watch. The real problem is that there is a bad timeline (even without timelimit, we can guess how long a game will last), and that it's difficult to take part in the tournament and stream/comment it as well.

6 (edited by Lanta 2009-05-31 21:48:47)

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Magnet wrote:

About timelimit: Timelimit is a very bad idea in CTF, it encourages a team to camp and play the time rather than CTF. If there was a timelimit, Qi would have 3 defenders and would win through timelimit using flag touches... Is that such a good idea ?
To sum up, timelimit makes CTF games boring to play and to watch. The real problem is that there is a bad timeline (even without timelimit, we can guess how long a game will last), and that it's difficult to take part in the tournament and stream/comment it as well.

So, the next time what wants the community?
We wants your opinion to make our league better ^^

1on1, 2on2, 3on3, 4on4, 5on5, 6on6?
TDM or CTF?
Vanilla or Instagib?
Timelimit on NO Timelimit?
Expression your opinion, we will give you voice!

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[#] Set the scorelimit to 600 instead of 1000. (As it is set in most clan wars)
[#] Maybe you should use a timelimit, if you perform instagib matches, but I guess at vanilla its not needed.
[#] Restart the servers with a new pw after a match or kick everyone, who's not needed in the following game. Because the servers are often full and participating players or teetv can't join.

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But 600 scorelimit only in 4on4. I would like to see a really big CTF tournament, like 5on5 or 6on6 with all good clans of teeworlds, so that we have a real challenge and more than only 3 rounds to play. This tournament should last for longer than a day, maybe a whole week. At the beginning there could be some matches at one day, but the really good and hard matches should be only on one day because such games have to be prepared in advance, we have to make tactics depending on the opponent and this way we could also better find other dates in case of one clan is not able to play.

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Magnet wrote:

First, it was a cool tournament, maybe a bit too long (6 games in a row for finalists). Congratulations to my teammates Drako & Huskil for this victory smile. It was also a good opportunity for us to test Brian who wants to join us. Congrats to him for his good performance. Nice games from our opponents too.


About timelimit: Timelimit is a very bad idea in CTF, it encourages a team to camp and play the time rather than CTF. If there was a timelimit, Qi would have 3 defenders and would win through timelimit using flag touches... Is that such a good idea ?

To sum up, timelimit makes CTF games boring to play and to watch. The real problem is that there is a bad timeline (even without timelimit, we can guess how long a game will last), and that it's difficult to take part in the tournament and stream/comment it as well.

Then the opponents would have to attack with more players, timelimit works in soccer, hockey and all IRL sports, I don't understand what the difference would be.

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10 (edited by Lanta 2009-06-01 10:14:01)

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Corrected the anticlan vs Z score... (in our site)
if you want to vote there are some pools in our site about next events and configuration.
http://funwar.tee-city.net/index.php?l= … ;view=list

fameless wrote:

[#] Restart the servers with a new pw after a match or kick everyone, who's not needed in the following game. Because the servers are often full and participating players or teetv can't join.

nice point:
in the future we are planning to integrate our site with the teeworlds-server application. When there is a match there will be also a dedicated server. It sound like "you have a match, you have the server".
The password will be sended to all team members as PM in the site, 5 or 10 minutes before the match starts.

I'm working on that script.

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Chi11y wrote:

Then the opponents would have to attack with more players, timelimit works in soccer, hockey and all IRL sports, I don't understand what the difference would be.

Yes, just look how the Italians or the Paraguayans play football : exactly what I said, no fun, no sport, no action, only playing "the rules" (or their loopholes). I don't want that for my CTF games.

And not all IRL sports. Ever heard of tennis, badminton, golf, F1... ?

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Magnet wrote:

Yes, just look how the Italians or the Paraguayans play football

I'm italian -.-
big_smile

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Magnet wrote:
Chi11y wrote:

Then the opponents would have to attack with more players, timelimit works in soccer, hockey and all IRL sports, I don't understand what the difference would be.

Yes, just look how the Italians or the Paraguayans play football : exactly what I said, no fun, no sport, no action, only playing "the rules" (or their loopholes). I don't want that for my CTF games.

And not all IRL sports. Ever heard of tennis, badminton, golf, F1... ?

Without timelimit, you can defend all the time too, and I'd have to give walkover because I have schoolwork to do. FunWar rules says no gamestyle or tactic is less worth than another, you really _should_ read the rules better.

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Chi11y wrote:

Without timelimit, you can defend all the time too, and I'd have to give walkover because I have schoolwork to do. FunWar rules says no gamestyle or tactic is less worth than another, you really _should_ read the rules better.

You should really learn what "fun" means first. I don't care if it's valid in the rules, it encourages non-fun games. Fun as in Funwar, the name of the league.

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This is only a discussion Magnet-Ch1lly big_smile
We want to have more opinion...
Timelimit or not?

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Unfortunately, I wasn't there for the funwar league, but here is my opinion :

Players : 5on5
Gametype : CTF, vanilla
Map : ctf2
Scorelimit : 600
Timelimit : NO

About timelimit : if you set a limit please remove the flag touches. I haven't really experienced the timelimit (except in 1on1), but on huh server it is really frustrating.

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Ubuntu wrote:

Unfortunately, I wasn't there for the funwar league, but here is my opinion :

Players : 5on5
Gametype : CTF, vanilla
Map : ctf2
Scorelimit : 600
Timelimit : NO

About timelimit : if you set a limit please remove the flag touches. I haven't really experienced the timelimit (except in 1on1), but on huh server it is really frustrating.

tnx ubuntu...
oh, vanilla was obvious big_smile
For instagib actually i've seen many little tournament organised by clan, and we will support it only in the future... for now, Vanilla.

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18 (edited by Stephanator 2009-06-02 14:03:35)

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Usually I would say 600 scorelimit for 4on4, 800 for 5on5, 1000 for 6on6.
5on5 tournament would be nice, but please WITHOUT timelimit.

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19 (edited by Lanta 2009-06-02 19:49:25)

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HERE IS THE VIDEO OF THE FINAL powered by the TeeTV
http://blip.tv/file/2190127
http://blip.tv/file/2190401
tnx TeeTV ^^

I'll update the first post

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20 (edited by Lanta 2009-06-06 13:58:30)

Re: [TOURNAMENT] Fun War Opening Cup: ended!!!

The Next FunWar Tournament will probably be a big event with up to 16 clans!!!
This cup will last 7 days: from 15 to 21/06/2009.
We want to do something new... different... like always, STAY TUNED!
TeeTV would like to stream? big_smile

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21 (edited by Stephanator 2009-06-13 20:25:01)

Re: [TOURNAMENT] Fun War Opening Cup: ended!!!

So the next cup starts on Monday? Maybe you could inform us earlier this time to prevent shit organisation. What about team registration? Isn't it a bit late now? Or do you play a checkin system? What time will it start and which maps will be played? Comon guys don't be so lazy and unorganised!

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I seriously don't see the point of being an administrator on Funwar if I am not in the decision process for things like this. I thought the point of me being admin was to help organize this thing.From now, lets try to make any such decisions after ALL the administrators agree.

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What about CTF5 5on5?

D3xter

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Ctf5 was cancelled.

So it won't be tomorrow as Lanta told us I guess?

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Who knows? The organization is getting a bit too chaotic.. hmm

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