[BUG]Reset filter

But 75% of the servers with people in them play either custom mods or custom maps. I just don't see how the rather limited standard content could be considered more important then the 75% that makes Teeworlds as successful as it is. It's a bit strange to deny your customers the mods they want to play in favor of the gameplay you want them to play. After all the game depends on it's customers, doesn't it?

All I'm saying is that it's strange for any project to have it's developers working 180 degrees away from the direction of the community, usually they try to cooperate and follow more or less the same path.

Considering a majority of the players embraced the integration of mods it seems like a logical step to at least support their basic needs like a proper Reset filter function which will show all available servers. Why would developers deny and counteract the player base that makes their game as successful as it is?

The reason why the default filter settings are like they are is because many new players get into the game and play some random mod and start reporting bugs, game balancing etc to me. New players should know what Teeworlds is and then they are free to adventure off into mods etc.

"Reset" is translated to "Set as it was from the beginning" in my dictionary, so that's what that button should do, I don't see why it's a problem just unchecking those two checkboxes if playing mods is what youa re interested in. We do not officially support mods yet.

I have an idea: Don't press reset filter if you don't wanna play vanilla Teeworlds.

This topic is pointless. People already explained to you why things are the way they are. Theres one thing you can do about it: accept. And stop speaking in the name of the whole teeworlds-playing community. You are one person and the fact that something pleases you doesnt mean that it would please others. If you want to know my opinion - i'm happy with the way the filter works, and I dont agree that the minority plays vanilla and the majority plays mods. Stop explaing over and over again why it would be good to have the filter your way, no one actually cares.

Thanks for messing up this perfectly legit discussion between me and the development team. Now some moderator will have to come and either clean the mess or close the thread. Next time please think before you post some useless post which doesn't relate to the discussion. Maybe these guidelines might prevent further issues:

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I agree with both parts of the discussion.

People really think that mods are fully supported now, although they aren't (yet). So the mod-communities have to take care of themselves, not depend on the vanilla players.

Actually vanilla isn't the minority of players.

And AFAIK the 0.5.0 version was tweaked especially to make newbies start playing vanilla instead of instagib. Because newbies prefer to go the *seemingly* easy way, they chose instagib as their gametype of choice. This caused the growing instagib part of the community to overwhelm vanilla. There were less and less vanilla players and servers, all in favor of insta. So the filter was introduced to keep vanilla alive, because this is the default, pure gameplay option.

Unfortunately, the change seemed to have exactly the opposite effect on the community. Right now we can see a huge outbreak of mods of all possible types, and even the regular vanilla players start playing more instagib. This situation was bound to happen. When a newbie, discovering the available features, unchecks the default gametype and map - he sees a new, wide world that needs exploring. That's why mods are flourishing at the moment.

So right now the devs can either put even more limits on the mods, or make the mods more integrated, as to say, "free the market". On the free market all economic forces tend to reach equilibrium and balance.

And concerning the Reset Filter feature - I think it should really reset everything to 0.