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Re: [MAP] Lost_Landil (rework of lost)

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i'm kind of disappointed that there is a server (Matrix Clan Server) who does not give credits to me and changed the map name. This map took a lot of hours to map and to draw the gfx(I guess more than 30 - 40 hrs incl. concept drafts etc.) It's just not fair.

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The people that matter know it was you, what care about the kids?

IMHO reputation is something you cannot enforce.

27 Reply by datag (edited by datag 2008-08-08 02:30:16)

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Landil wrote:

... who does not give credits to me and changed the map name.

Everyone knows that you have done this great map. IMHO there is no need to have your name in the filename (don't get me wrong: if i would host your map i would preserve the name because i know you want it to wink ). You can't prevent people doing this, there are always people who break the rules.

Did you contact the server admin? Maybe he doesn't know what he is doing wrong smile
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Wow. this is a really good map!
don't let the people that don't give credit put you down, we ALL know the Leet Epic person who made it.
Well Done.
Keep up the Good Work.

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landil asked me for a video of the rock-bug. so here it is. smile
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=ql-ZYE_a2CI

I hope you can see the bug ^^

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Holy shit, that's rly strange, thx a lot Paddy. As I cannot replicate this bug, I cannot try to create a workaround. Catpaw told me, that I should try to renew the quad. I'll give it a try tonight.

concerning "giving credits":
Just compare it to a songwriter/band. They write a good song and it took a lot of effort. They decide to publish it and some days later they find their song on e.g. youtube without their name, without any credits.

My personal solution is, that I will add a small quad layer with the map creater (motar) and mine as the reworker.

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31 Reply by catpaw (edited by catpaw 2008-08-08 09:22:47)

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That youtube video will not hurt that band.

About the quad issues, you could also reset the texcoords to defaults with that xml tool.

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but their heart (how pathetic)

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it's a really great feeling to play on that map. Really nice atmosphere. big_smile

34 Reply by catpaw (edited by catpaw 2008-08-08 12:33:09)

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A good band should stay over that.

Really landil we all who are a bit interested in anything behind the teeworlds show know you are a great map designer, personally I don't see the need to force that into the kids. When they call it "lost2" is IMHO nothing we'd really lose.

BTW: I looked at you map inside a xml edition, and the texcoords are okay. I thing the corners of the quads are no rectangles and somehow mixed up, make it "square" (wrong name in the editor btw) and resize it, then the strangeness is gone.

35 Reply by Landil (edited by Landil 2008-08-08 14:43:10)

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@thx a lot catpaw, I don't wanna fish for compliments, but imo it's normal/polite to give credits. If those kids don't do that, I will tell 'em. (cf. singature)

i will have a look at the mountains 2night. I just copied it from the original lost map, so I do wonder that it behaves strange.

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Besides -  I am the gfx guy!

36 Reply by iphone747

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Yeah thats right i played on a Server with the new Lost map and asked who made this map. But nobody couldn`t say me how created this map.

37 Reply by Landil (edited by Landil 2008-08-18 12:49:54)

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Re: [MAP] Lost_Landil (rework of lost)

*quick update*
I made some updates, but I'm not sure if I will publish them, cause I want to rework it again with my maya tileset (which is by the way nearly finished)

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Besides -  I am the gfx guy!

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I'm nosy already on the maya tileset.

Currently the map could IMHO be improved by simplifying it a litte. IMHO its just a bit too much... I don't know what exactly, but I experimented already what could give it a little lighter feeling without really losing anything of the good stuff.

I don't know, would the rain require less ressource if it were less but larger quads, containing several drops, while falling?

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catpaw wrote:

I don't know, would the rain require less ressource if it were less but larger quads, containing several drops, while falling?

I dicussed this point with Lappi and we are sure that it would improve performance, but it would increase filesize and decrease the rain's naturalness.
--> if I do another rework this will be altered.

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Besides -  I am the gfx guy!

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i rly love the reworked version, the normal lost had the perfect gaming and now it has the realy perfect look lol

so i am working on an lost_037 with the same game layer but snowtitels big_smile

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you can "sign" it with a quad layer .... just make a png with your sign and embed her

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i'll do another rework when 0.5 will be published.

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Besides -  I am the gfx guy!

43 Reply by 0³7 (edited by 0³7 2008-10-27 16:29:31)

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nice smile what will be changed?
(edit: are there changes in the editor?)

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This rework is better then the original map...
And I can't believe people continue using the other.

It sucks.

check out these maps: infiltrate - choco - dustycloud

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nice smile what will be changed?
(edit: are there changes in the editor?)

I'll adapt the graphics to the standard o.5 gfx.

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Besides -  I am the gfx guy!

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ah you mean like in the 0.5.0 progress ?

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47 Reply by Landil (edited by Landil 2008-10-27 19:57:46)

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sure ... as the normal lost map will not be able to be played with o.5 (doodads and main_tiles will be changed)

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Besides -  I am the gfx guy!

48 Reply by o10 (edited by o10 2008-10-28 12:55:17)

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Landil, until the 0.5.0 is out, MonkeyStyle is hosting your map on its server smile

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~{MS}~ o10 wrote:

Landil, until the 0.5.0 is out, MonkeyStyle is hosting your map on its server smile

very good, since I am wondering too why s.o. is playing the old map if there's another - eye candy - version out...

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50 Reply by 0³7 (edited by 0³7 2008-10-28 13:51:35)

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Landil wrote:

sure ... as the normal lost map will not be able to be played with o.5 (doodads and main_tiles will be changed)

ah nice, so iam gonna wait with the lost_037 too tongue

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