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@Landil, i'm not asking you wink it doesn't interfere with anything
@toni, so why didn't you added it by yourself with your own name? wink anyway - deleted

i know, you just don't want teestuff to get better than teeworlds-db ;] it IS right now ;]

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noooooooo!^^

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no i like teestuff, has some really nice parts
but our design is better!

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so why won't you join me with your design? smile it would be very functional and beautiful smile and of course all of us would be maintainers :]

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Hm, you guys sure you should be managing projects like these?

if($poster["intelligence"] == $intelligence["idiot"])
        deny_post($poster);

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well can the teestuff-design be edited at all?
i thought its "Designed by : Template World"

182 (edited by marines 2008-08-01 00:13:37)

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of course :] there is template file which could be changed as you wish. it would take 10-20 minutes to make teestuff look like teeworlds-db smile really it is ready to use free template got from OSWD smile

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the best thing to solve this problem ist that marines joins teeworlds-db because:

1. Teeworlds-db is much more popular then yours(marines ones).
2. The design from toni is also much better.. and own made.. nothing downloaded.
3. nobody can remember http://marines.vdl.pl/teestuff/ but www.teeworlds-db.com is easy to remember.

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but on teeworlds-db is nothing interesting hmm pure skins. eg. why don't you add some ratings? i can join you but writing it by hand is very senseless. on teestuff is everything but content. also domain could be connected with teestuff.

even if i join you, what would i do?

185 (edited by catpaw 2008-08-01 09:43:21)

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at the current state of affairs i like teestuff better.

More functionality (voting). Seems the chosen technique is easier to maintain. Cares about license.

Both waste a lot of my screenspace with an oversized big banner you don't care about once you have seen it sad

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@marines i think/know you are really good in php ... and thats the point.. my friend kai learned php by the web.. and toni doesnt know everything so we need such coders like you.. how you code is your thing .. by hand by whatever.. lol
@catpaw big banner yikes i have 1280x1024 and its perfect wink

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marines could you send me all the files of your hp?
would be nice if there were some php-scripts which we could also use.
therefor i make a ned layout for you

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teestuff advantages:
+voting
+maps already included
+(same functionality of teedb)
disadvantages:
- design is O_o
- not a clear arrangement

teedb advantages:
- nice design / intuitive structure
- many forum members already working on it
- the name "teeworlds-db" (it simply sounds better for my ears)

disadvantages:
- no voting implemented yet
- no maps implemented yet

The solution is to take the best out of both! The design/structure of teedb with an extended functionality of teestuff.

Antoine de Saint Exupéry: It seems that perfection is reached not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
Besides -  I am the gfx guy!

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kai wont be happy about it
xD

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Landil wrote:

The solution is to take the best out of both! The design/structure of teedb with an extended functionality of teestuff.

I think the big difference is should a well known framework be used an adapted (currently teestuff), or should the web client be coded from scratch (currently teeworlds-db).

Personally I like the framework thing better. Because it not only gets your more functionality with less work, its also a lot less work to maintain, because many of the routines already many people looked over, many bugs already worken out. etc.

IMHO in an ideal world, the current teeworlds-db should take the framework from teestuff, and merge the designs bit, so to create a new better one.

and Dani, yes the banner is IMHO quite too big. Really, it takes 25% from my screen providing zero information!

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but its only 820px × 160px, thats nothing

192 (edited by marines 2008-08-01 12:17:45)

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@Dani, like catpaw said above teestuff is based on framework which is completely integrated app which does most of work. it is quite impossible to use its code in teeworlds-db hmm

@toni, like above, Kohana PHP isn't pack of independent scripts. here is part of code which displays latest maps:

class Maps_Controller extends Website_Controller {
    // ... other methods
    function latest($page=1) {
        // setting page title
        $this->template->title = lang::s('title_latest_maps');
        // setting heading
        $this->template->heading = $this->template->title;
        // setting instructions
        $this->template->instructions = lang::s('ins_latest_maps');
        // view items
        $this->viewSorted('map', 'date', 'desc', $page);
    }

}

and when you go to http://marines.vdl.pl/teestuff/maps/latest you will get paginated list of maps sorted by date desceding.

@catpaw, writing teeworlds-db with kohana help will be almost the same as teestuff from technical view :]

unfortunately i'm not good designer and i was forced to use ready template. if i find some better template i will use it as soon as possible.

and BTW just look at it ;] Kohana looks after safety instead of me wink

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As I'm doing databases for my living (but not as webapplications yet), I think I've got a sophisticated impression of the facts. I'm convinced that a framework is the better solution, somewhere in this post I've even given advice to use a framework (too lazy to quote, sry). What I like on teeworlds-db.com is the fact of ppl with time and interest in doing such a project and toni did a great job with the design in general (btw: the banner is a bit too large xD ). I really enjoyed watching how many different people have worked on one job on a voluntary base.

But there are plenty of reasons on why to use a standardized framework:
+ less bugs
+ documentation --> project does not die neccessarily with the programmers
+ easy customization (since it is a framework)
+ (most probably) implemented user administration with different access levels
+ easy to extend
+ many features out of the box
+ still self coded stuff - e.g. preview function - possible

Both of you did a great job - and I really like teeworlds-db.com, but I'm convinced it would be the best to merge both projects and distribute the admin jobs on several shoulders smile

(Trivia: I planned to do sth like teestuff on my own and even installed the widely spread joomla-framework on the server.)

Question? search function
Short movies? Lappi's link loft
Teeworlds info'n'tuts on gfx? Landil's sketchbook

194 (edited by marines 2008-08-01 12:21:58)

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i've never heard about joomla-framework hmm

IMO teeworlds-db banner looks great, exaclty how it should look o.0

195 (edited by Lappi 2008-08-01 12:24:41)

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I <3 this link: http://www.teeworlds-db.com/?s=2&se … %67%3eToni

U see: In teeworlds-db.com html-injection defense has to be programmed manually - a framework will most probably have such a module out of the box.

Question? search function
Short movies? Lappi's link loft
Teeworlds info'n'tuts on gfx? Landil's sketchbook

196 (edited by marines 2008-08-01 13:57:13)

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it's great that you at least used addslashes() ;]

TIP: strip_tags() wink

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Hqhq lol Lappi big_smile
I've tried with SQL injection but haven't thought of doing this big_smile

And I agree with catpaw. We should keep the teeworlds-db domain name, but put a framework on it using the current (or a little modified) layout of tw-db.
It'll make the work easier, Roanoke would stop crying after W3C validation and I would stop crying after javascript xD
Kai's work would be abandoned yes, and  maybe he'll be a little sad about it, but it's still a good first experience and he can still keep the current code to use it on one of his future projects, or as an example of what can be done and what cannot. Btw, he could develop some modules for the new tw-db if he wants to...

And Lappi, joomla is maybe a little too big for what we want to do.

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Noobing pwns since 01/01/1970.
TeeViewer - TeeComp

198 (edited by marines 2008-08-01 14:00:59)

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spl0k wrote:

I've tried with SQL injection but haven't thought of doing this big_smile

sql injection qon't success because of quotes escaping. all in all bad db query isn't catched.

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@marines i want everything!

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for what? wink