[MAP] Tweaked by Dreamy - DM (Page 1 of 3)

@Dreamy - I really hope you asked toni if it was ok to modify and release the map before you posted it here!?!?

its ok, i dont play teeworlds that much anymore, i dont really care
i spend more time posting in this forum than playing^^
(thx for mentioning its my map)

Meh, I believe in taking what you can and modding it anyway Anyway, nice map.

Hmm, according to some random dictionary hit on google pilferage = steal. Is that correct?

I wouldn´t see this as stealing. More like a suggestion on how the map can be better. Was just easier to just do it than to describe it. It´s not like I didn´t give him credit for the original design.

In any case, what is the purpose of such a rule? To me, it just seems contraproductive. My perspective in this reasoning is the will for the Teeworlds community to have access to many good maps to play on. If all mappers just did their own maps not caring about others, all maps would have the flaws of some particular mappers thinking. In contrast, if a lot of mappers focused on the same maps, fixing eachother´s mistakes and such, we would end up with a higher general map quality - and I would think that´s what we want.

Now I´m fairly certain that there´s still stuff on this map that can be better, I´m just not the one who sees them. Further mods on it would be interesting to study.

It´s hard for me to respect an unwritten rule that doesn´t make sense to me. Or, rather, it´s quite impossible. Can you make it make sense?

Just for linguistic accuracy: To pilfer is to steal, and pilferage is the act of stealing, or what was stolen during the stealing.

I fully agree.

Also this "too many cooks spoil the broth" is non-sense. Ever server maintainer can very well decide and pick which cooks broth he wants to host. There is nothing lost if two people work in parallel on two different traits of the same map base.

Map is realy good I think, I found no bugs and I realy like to play this map.
Very, very, very good work! I think I´ll put it into maprotation on our clanserver ^^
Realy good job!

I'm old. And I consider this a breaking point on the tee community. I say we can expect a lot of better and reacher data when we treat work freely.

Especially Dreamy has made a perfect example how it should be done. He paid credit to the original author. He explained in detail what has been changed, he marked the map as changed, so it cannot be mismatched by the original one. What the hell is wrong with all that? Nothing.

For example in science its a rule, you can take any idea you want, as long you cite (pay respect) the original author. No author may claim, that was my idea, you have no reason to use it all!

I say, Dreamy you are right, if an author is an idiot and really feels nobody is to be allowed to base any new derived work out of his, than it first its *his* job to complain, not the job of somebody else inplace of him/her. Second if he just has to complain say you derived some of munyuls map, *then* he can still post a "cease and desist order" and you must revoke your work, until then don't pay too much attention to this nay-sayers and creativity brakes.

U all aren´t posting to the topic. vote for close!
[close] ^^

Yeah.. You freaks should check out some philosophy forum instead of bitchin around lol

Not directly, its not illegal if the person concerned doesn't mind.

"no complaint, no redress"

Especially with copyright law, you *cannot* enforce to copyright of any other person, only your own. Now please stop people derailing from doing creative work for teeworlds. I consider this a perfect example how it should be done, and if tony minds, its just an issue between toni and dreamy. Never between you and me, you and dreamy, you and toni, me and toni or me and dreamy.

All you achieved is that from now on I'm to ask every single contribution on the forums with 'cc-by-nc-sa?' Otherwise the whiners come up if somebody else uses it.

Actually if you stay strict to law you are not allowed to even run a single map from the forums on your forums without consent of the author. Redicolous, isn't it? Because nobody writes a big 'license' to any map he shares, the posts usually just go, 'look a designed this map, its cool isn't it?'

No thats something different, nobody especially dreamy never made a secret of using stuff (changing) from other maps. Thats not 'they don't know'.

No one ever gave explicitly out permission even to redistribute the map s/he uploads on the forums, so if you are a law hieratic, nobody is actually allowed to even run it on his server, because the server uploads (redistributes) it do clients connecting.