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Topic: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

Can someone give me a explanation why the broadcast command was deleted in 0.7?
It's a really useful feature for mods and server admins.
I can't see a reason why this should be removed.

Take a look at: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/ … 9722410d0d

I hope someone could explain this.
Bye

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

Because it is bot needed anymore, most notifications have specific display methods (team changing etc.)

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

So, you aren't going to see stuff like this in 0.7?

http://ninslash.com/img/infa.jpg

4 (edited by east 2015-12-06 11:07:10)

Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

Siile wrote:

So, you aren't going to see stuff like this in 0.7?

Right.

That's a huge disadvantage for modifications.

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

east wrote:
Siile wrote:

So, you aren't going to see stuff like this in 0.7?

Right.

That's a huge disadvantage for modifications.

Not only for modifications. It's a good communication option for server admins too. You can announce a server event or something like that.

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

TW staff doesn't like mods.. Is sad..

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

It was used for admin abuse on vanilla servers anyways. Im only sad because of the mods that used it.

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8 (edited by Schwertspize 2015-12-06 21:14:48)

Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

so basically we have to stick on lol font. not good, but. possible (you can also send it to just one player). maybe there is a lolfont rewrite which does not use just dots, also longer rifle lines)

.. you all know lol text I hope. (the ones written with laser, eg score in fng,...). some have just to create a typeset and a basic implementation (we could actually send it as up pest layer over everything in the map

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

Chat messages, MOTD and votes are also alternatives.

I don't like lol font because it's not well integrated with the game and new players can be disappointed with them.

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

not sure what all you mean by 'lol font', but legitimatly administrated vanilla servers don't have any broadcast spam from the administrators. the github commit -- the idea behind adding localization-able messages is good, but removing broadcast is irrelevant to that commit and should've not removed broadcast. but that commit also seems to add broadcasting code at the same time? I can't and havent tested 0.7, but if you're basing this purely on the github commit, i'd like to remind that "broadcast" is the command to broadcast not "sv_broadcast" (servervariable_broadcast)

here's where it adds code about broadcast:
https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/ … f003503R22

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

It is not a discussion wether it got removed, it rather is about why.

Ans it definetly got removed, thats not the question here, Spur commit is 3 years old by the way, just check the current code for it.

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

What's the value of removing broadcast? If the plan was to kill the mods, congrats! I'm not writing another line. tongue

13 (edited by xush 2015-12-07 14:36:59)

Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

Boycotts are not leading anywhere here... After what you just said... Go ahead, stop modding, not too much of a loss then.

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

It's just that all my future mod plans take too heavy impact. Story telling, be it as simple as 'Planting bomb.. 76%' or 'Wave 2', class / ability / weapon pickers like in InfectionClass... Dead ideas.

15 (edited by pelya 2015-12-07 19:17:05)

Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

All mods will stay on 0.6 branch and won't update to 0.7, 'boycott' will be as simple as that.
A lot of 0.6 servers will stay online for a looooong time anyway after 0.7 will be released.

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

I'll be porting bro, already did EXPlorer and a few other mods yet.

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

xush wrote:

I'll be porting bro, already did EXPlorer and a few other mods yet.

Nice bro! Please tell us how you replaced the missing broadcast. And no, vote/chat/motd are no solutions.

I will be banned if I troll again ...

18 (edited by xush 2015-12-07 23:44:03)

Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

I did a temporary solution, show turrets health in the chat every 5 hit points lost. I'll release the sources at 24. December when 0.7 comes out too (hopefully) so we can think about a few issues mainly related to that together.

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

What about an separate 'chatbox' wich keeps servermessages (no fading out)?

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and benchmarks.

20 (edited by Deepfinder 2015-12-08 18:19:22)

Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

xush wrote:

so we can think about a few issues mainly related to that together.

Lel, why after the release? Thats very stupid, stop trolling. We should do something now!

I will be banned if I troll again ...

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

Deepfinder wrote:

Lel, why after the release? Thats very stupid, stop trolling. We should do something now!

Yeah u re right, do something nao.

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and benchmarks.

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

u meen liek rite nao???

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtop … pid=116820

Here you go. Also a anti-Deepfinder-and-Schwertspize-leaking protection @ https://github.com/xushTW/EXPRemake/blo … /readme.md

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

@xush what do you mean? big_smile maybe you missed it but I am a big friend of source code. Actually I hate it that teeworlds license don't have a copyleft (copyleft=same license=mostly opensource)

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24 (edited by SealOfTheTime 2015-12-13 11:58:31)

Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

Someone will make custom client, which will support mods much better than vanilla. Like sending custom graphics, draw scripts etc. Or some mod-developers sooner or later will port their mods to 0.7 with some cutted down features, others will stop modding or playing game.

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Re: Broadcast command in teeworlds 0.7

Makes me wonder why do we need chat in game ether, I've seen more users abusing it then mods/admins abusing broadcast tongue

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