[TILESET] Japanese Temple [With Source Files] officially pimped (Page 4 of 4)

My guess is that it magically turns into a black furry ninja kitty .

Well, we do have a ninja kitty. AFAIK the difference between a ninja and a samurai is that ninjas were mercenarys and samurais were nearly the same, just from the upper class.

Nah, the proportions of x_ninja is different. We can make them white, sure. But we need to make sure it fits to the other tilesets (for compatibility reasons ).

The graphic shows you how I work to create one result. And that's what I did for a community tileset. Regarding an official tileset I do have higher demands. Besides you did not copy exactly the feet I did.
1. The shapes differ slightly
2. You put them in front of the gray platform
3. You added unreal shading

In addition I made a non-teeish graphic. It's a panda bear wich has a body and a head. It was supposed as an inspiration for a community tileset. This is a no-go for an official tileset!

Sometimes even very minor differences can change the whole appearance. Teeish feet are IMHO one of the most difficult parts of tees. To make them look good I need to experiment a lot.

Yeah, here comes the part that really sucks. Tee hands cannot really be copy pasted for doodads. Why? It's always been that way, I dunno why. I've done countless tee graphics and whenever you use the original shapes it will suck. Really!

The contrast is quite high. A high contrast should only be used for the game layer.

I don't understand why you think my last statue looked flat as I think the new statue looks too flat, and so does the jungle and winter statues.

The winter statue looks flat due to historical reasons. Compare it to the original one and you will see that we improved it. We won't rework all tilesets with every update so we need keep the same style. This means every new tileset has to adopt the current teeworlds style. Otherwise we will have lots of different styles and this totally sucks. As long as I am responsible for the graphics this won't happen.

When we did the jungle tileset rework we did not make one graphic for one idea. Everyone made one or two mockups. Then we discussed the graphics. Which one is the most teeish? Why is it teeish? Which part is not teeish and how can we improve it? So step by step we found a solution which we all considered to be teeish. (Keep in mind that Crises, Zatline and I are self educated "artists",  we did not study it)

So what happens if I work on that statue. Well first of all I'd copy the last approach of the statue I did for the panda theme. The base needs a little modification (less details). Then I'd take the x_ninja body. Add the ninja eyes. I experimented with the meditation position of the feet and hands until they look okay. Then I will add some details. Which one looks best.

Is this teeish? I do not know. I will sleep over it a couple of days. If I am satisfied, then I will sleep another day over it. ... And then if I really like it, then I'm glad

1. I prolly need to check the colors. My goal is to use as few colors as possible.
2. Maybe he feet need some shading (But it's pretty hard to do some good looking shading)
3 ... tbc...

NEXT TRY:

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Two things which came two my mind.
1. At the panda theme I suggested elliptical shapes for the bonsais. But here we use circles, too. Maybe you should check If circle based bonsai trees look better. Prolly it will, as the cherry blossoms are circular, too.

2. I cannot check at this place, but the statue should be compatible to the other tilesets. Which means it should be possible to set the owl on this base and vice Versa the ninja on a swamp base. So it could be possible that u need to adjust the base.

Besides keep up asking questions and doubting my words.

XD No need to argue. IMHO they look more bonsai with cirlces. The elliptoid was just a suggestion as the panda theme used them for the bamboo. I prefer the circles.

The more compatible the tilesets are the more we will get an uniform look. When I did the first jungle tileset I even wanted to standardize the placement of the doodads so people could replace the tileset just by replacing the pngs. I <3 standards and compatibility. Look at the jungle night dm map. it combines the grass AND the jungle theme / tiles.

I meant argue in the sense of using arguments.
If you have a closer look at perfect bonsais you will see that you do not really recognize the leaves. The shape is dominant:

Map makers are very creative and combine graphics you do not think they will or can do.

Yes. This does not look good. Try to move it down or give it a small cut out. Try to change the color(?) ... uhmmm ... If it still sucks remove it

Nah, no bamboo. Indeed this is the part of creating graphics which sucks most. A good looking statue is done in a couple of minutes. Optimizing a statue to the restrictions of a tileset and regarding other tilesets that's what takes a lot of time. Be creative! Find a way to make it looking good AND following the given restrictions *lol*

You ZIP file seems to contain only trees, no the rest of the tileset: http://android272.deviantart.com/art/Te … a_recent=1

Wow