"LaserBeam" as aiming device (Page 1 of 2)

Hi

I added something similar to my client some time ago:
https://youtu.be/LdWekOWaWkQ

Gives better feel to aiming IMO.

/Siile

That feature was originally made for HClient and then added to DDNET.
I can't recommend HClient thought, since it's really buggy... Or it used to be. I gave up on it. Also, DDNET is Open S. so I find it hard to believe it has any danger on it. Probably Norton does not have enough information about the app?

Thanks for your answers.

And what do I have to do in the ddnet-client to turn that constant laser on?

Edit:

@ dune: I dont see why one wouldn't incldue it in the standard client.
The only reason to even consider putting it anywhere near cheating is because it isn't in the original client. Since you can't stop people from using it the answer clearly has to be to integrate it into the standard client!

Press and hold the hookcoll (laserbeam thingie) and at the same time press ESC, then release the hookcoll key and press ESC again. Tadan!

I must say that I agree with Dune. If you want to use it, of course nobody can stop you. Just don't demand that it be implemented into the standard client and shit on Dune for disagreeing with you.

Heroi is just telling you how to make the laser beam show up constantly without you having to constantly hold down the bind key.

My argument was perfectly fine.

The problem is your oversimplificating logic that you apparently consider to be "clever".

Basically I explained my opinion about there not being any reason at all to consider the constant laser-beam anything even near a cheat.

Since you seemed to have a different view, I wrote "the ONLY reason to even consider putting it anywhere near cheating" was that it hasn't been included in the standard client.

What's so hard about understanding the word "only" ?

constant laser-beam ---> The ONLY argument to consider it ANYWHERE NEAR cheating (it still isn't cheating...) would be that some clients have it, others don't. Therefore not every player knows about it, not every player can use it.

aimbot ---> BESIDES not every player being able to use it, the one and most important criteria for cheating applies here: AIMBOTTING NEGATES THE SKILL TO AIM ITSELF. Therefore it reduces the game nearly to absurdity. ("Nearly" because you still have certain other skills that are important. ---> A game like Moorhuhn/crazy chicken would indeed be reduced to total absurdity as there is no other aspect about the game than aiming.)

Because of this essential difference your cheap strawman does not work at all. The sentence "Since you can't stop people from using it the answer clearly has to be to integrate it into the standard client!" only applied to the constant laser-beam. You tried to generalize it in my name by using it for aimbots ---> oversimplification and straw man.

Oh, also I don't see what your problem with my first comment is. I did not insult you as a person once. If you can't deal with people calling one of your comparisons "stupid" (with explanation of course) then maybe you shouldn't participate in discussions at all.

1. In contrast to Dune I actually try to give arguments for my claims. Dune on the other hand just wants to find (non-existent) mistakes in other people's arguments. Even if he found any, it still wouldn't support his point. At the very best it would make it an argumentative draw. The only "argument" Dune thought of himself is that a constant laser-beam is "unteeish and ugly". Wow.

2. What is your definition of "shitting on another person"? As already mentioned, I did not insult Dune once.

A pretty good point if you ask me. More a less at least...

I would find it useful to have a hookline on the original vanilla game. It's really useful for new players that do not know how to master the aiming or terrible players like me.
I mean... New players do not know that there is a "unofficial client that supports a hookcoll" line. They don't even know what a "client" is.

Edit, on my last post on this topic, "hookcoll" is the command that activates the line (not really the name of the command but how I'm treating it on here)
Press the "hookcoll" means 'Press the key that enables the aiming line'

You know, Dune, the thing is you somehow sound like one of these ****** that complain about other people using dynamic camera. And please don't be nitpicky now. Yes, there are some differences. However, principally it's pretty much the same...

1. Considering you're hopefully an adult I still don't see what the big deal is. Nothing heartbreaking in there. You should be able to handle the fact that discussions sometimes are lead in a sharp-tongued manner.

2. That being said I said, I generally wouldn't even write like that.

However, as a teeworlds player your general behaviour slightly offends me, respectively it feels at least inappropriate. (Not just in this topic.)

--> I will explain this thoroughly in another topic once I've got the time. What I want to write isn't just about you and I don't think my criticism will be well perceived in this context.

Edit:

Yeah, about this "shitting on another person"-thing:

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtop … 58#p100858

You write stuff like that (as a mod!) and expect other people to treat you like a little princess?

Believe me, I didn't search for this. I found it because I googled for "teeworlds ddrace discussion" since I felt that strange hate against ddrace and other mods in the steam-thread.

Anyway, for me it is an example of the messed up way some of the officials here seem to behave. That is what my mentioned topic will be about. Here is something wrong with the way the community is handled.

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But there must be a reason why these are not implemented in the official client in the first place, right?
I don't understand what's the issue, is replacing binaries not possible when working with Steam? Could you enlighten me on that?

Hi, I'm 13.

Anyways, I admit that the standard client is a bit empty, so we could definitely add some new features for the next release. Frankly, DDNet client is way more feature-packed than the standard client; in effect, DDNet has become the standard client. And yes, there are a ton of things from the DDNet client that I wish were also in the standard client. I really like the dummy feature as well as the huge database of skins, just to list a few.

we're calling all laser beam aiming devices as if they are the same, and they arent
ddnet and/or hclient hook line (is always the same length) can tell you if you are about to hook a tee (yellow) green (land) or red (an unhookable tile or air) whereas Siile's aim line 1: goes through terrain/gametiles unlike ddnets (with solid tiles i mean) 2: changes distance based on cursor distance from tee 3: only changes color to represent what weapon you're holding, not based on what it's about to hook or shoot
also, Siile's looks very teeish imo.
and we're forgetting that a line going from the center of your screen to your cursor could not possibly help you move the cursor more accurately to something you need to aim at.