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and why don't you just leave the job of creating a vid for tw to the best video editing specialist in this community and he makes what he thinks is the best for it?

Dune is right, Casualtee definitely features way too much grenade gameplay (because it just looks so impressive )
I would also like the idea of a new "official" trailer made of community demos.
The question is, should it also feature modded gameplay (e.g. in a seperate section of the video, just showing a few glimpses of some popular mods)?
Maybe in the style of a feature trailer with different categories (e.g. "cute graphics", "competitive gamemodes", "movement", "mods", "open source", something like that).

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Well the person doesn't have to be a specialist in it, afaik.
I mean, if you weren't asking for something mind-blowing and fancy, and you just wanted something laid back to attract the intellectual type, which would be dumb, as that would mean less players, and those people would play the game after looking at the other trailer anyway, I could do it

But I've just done video editing to my own specifications, and it was simply easy swap of videos and things such as that, which works, but my edits I've done for people (ex.) were all descriptive and corrective, no special fancy things at all. Putting audio tracks onto video, putting captions and pictures, etc

Personally I like Oblique and Zargon's ideas.

About the trailer:

We should probably create a separate thread in which people can submit their demos. I personally think that mods should be included, just because they're so diverse and widespread. Once we have a substantial amount of demos, anybody can attempt to create their own trailer out of the submitted demos, and we can later vote on whichever one we think fits best.
Just a suggestion.

May I ask you why? There are so many great modifications which add great features to teeworlds.

Maybe "promotiong" is too big word, but there should be word about community modifications in video?

I actually contacted GOG recently, they said it was "an interesting game with good characters and weapons" but "too much of a niche" so they weren't going to go for it. I think putting demos of modifications (with video editing (to be clear, you don't need to be a specialist) to make it clear it's a mod) would be a good idea, as I know a lot of people who would look at the current trailer and think it doesn't have instagib, simply because it wasn't shown in the trailer, and then not try it out.

I'm not asking to promote them - I just want to mention them in their own part of the video, after the presentation of vanilla gamemodes.

Please, keep in mind that mods are what keeps a lot (if not the majority) of players in game. Many people quickly get bored of standard gamemodes and prefer something more complex - they usually start playing mods and got involved in DDRace, OpenFNG or Race community. But they still play vanilla gamemodes from time to time, which they've couldn't do if they left after they got bored of it. So the fact is that a lot of mods even keeps the vanilla community alive. I understand that for most of vanilla players mods are not interesting and DDRace is pure evil - but please, take into account how complex in terms of intellectual and manual effort it is. It may attract a lot of puzzle gamers to Teeworlds and make them interested in vanilla as well. Also, what's the point of calling a game "open", if it disowns its own mods?

From the mods player (mostly) point of view, I don't treat vanilla like simple or boring gamemodes (maybe I'm getting bored of them too fast, but if somebody likes them, they're pretty fun and you can do amazing things if you master them), so please don't treat mods as they were weird or stupid (most of them are actually much more complex than vanilla). We are all tees and we should treat each other with respect and understanding, that's what makes this game's world so nice.

So, to sum it up - I don't want to promote them, I only want to mention them, because it wouldn't be fair to completely ignore such a big community (maybe even bigger than vanilla, as I said) and it would be a great loss for the players who might be interested in playing them.

I guess we should inform him that maps are downloaded automatically, the editor is already built in and the game modifications (except for the alternative game clients) are mostly server-side - therefore there's no urgent need for a Steam Workshop support. I think we shouldn't accept anything which may lead to paid art, maps, gamemodes or servers. We also shouldn't accept any NDA or license changes. If Steam Workshop could work without such things, maybe it could be useful, but I don't really see what greater good could really come for the price of mixing different application and graphical user interface into the game client. I guess we should instead create a database for skins, game skins, maps and mods. This could be accessible from game client, without breaking the immersion. On the other hand, the local map testing server feature seems nice, but it wouldn't be able to handle maps for mods.

PS. I know that mods are mentioned in the description and I'm really glad that they weren't forgotten. I just think that adding them to the video too would be really informative (we should also add short demos of vanilla gamemodes).

Although I understand your point of trying to separate the vanilla and the mods, gametypes like DDRACE completely changed the way Teeworlds works. DDRACE alone made what was but an original 2D shooter into a co-op platforming game and that's really impressive and deserves to be shown to the new players. People love 2D platformers and there aren't many good co-op (with actual coop) platformers out there. Specially with the brilliant tool that the hook is!

Edit: about the demos, once again, if anyone`s skilled enough to make a good video, please remember, we do not need flashy effects or anything like that. We only need a video that shows what teeworlds has to offer. Including the map editor, the costumization, the different weapons, the ninja, etc...  And the mods.. Maybe..? Like I said... They are kinda important... I mean. You don't need to spend 30 seconds with a textline saying "DDRace" but spending 30 sec with a textline saying "Supports Mods" showing different gametypes users have created is another story

While promoting specific mods in the 'official' promo vids for Teeworlds is not a great idea (for the reason that it gives those mods extra attention, leaving out the rest), I do agree that there should be a small section demonstrating that there are mods, with maybe 3-5 second clips for several different kinds of play without naming which modes are shown.

I also agree that in a gameplay montage promo video, a fair amount of pistol, grenade, shotgun, laser rifle, and hammer should be shown. Not so sure about katana.

I just discovered this topic and I have to say it's really great news to me even though I rarely play anymore - that's how much I like TW.

I'd just like to mention two ideas for promoting tw further in case they haven't been addressed already.

1. What about creating an TW-offshoot for browsergame-websites like jetztspielen.de ? I mean, if these sites make it possible to include download-links to advertise the "real" tw it would be even better. However, I could imagine that an offshoot would already be a nice additional advertisement for TW. Even though TW is no browsergame, I consider it to be the kind of game people who visit browsergame-websites are looking for.

Btw: I have already posted this idea in my last post on the topic "The great vanilla revival inititive". Back then I was totally stunned that seemingly few people saw the need to widen tw's audience. I'm all the more happy that my initial impression apparently was false. I don't want to sound dramatic but I just played a bit over the last couple of days and I've got say: TW is nearly dead. It needs to be revived - by advertisement.

2. Have you tried contacting gaming-channels/let's-players on youtube, twitch etc.? Personally, I'm not into that stuff but thinking about how famous some of these guys and girls are, I imagine it could be enough to enthuse one well-known let's-player/gaming-channel to give TW an extreme popularity boost.

Edit:

About this video: I haven't read everything and maybe I'm a bit biased due to my love for Instagib. Just to clarify: I do have much sympathy for vanilla especially since the development of instagib (i think the level of openfng comparably is quite low momentarily) forced me into trying out vanilla whenever I've been playing over the last 2 years.
However, I think that Instagib needs to be included in a possible video/trailer. The way Instagib works probably appeals to certain groups of people that otherwise may not become interested in TW at all. I became fascinated with Instagib because it's has an amazing simplicity and minimalism to it if you combine it with the general character of TW. Here's what you get with Instagib: Direction keys, jumps and a hook to move, additionally ONE gun - a laser gun (How cool is that? ) - that kills with ONE shot. Incredibly minimalistic and FAST. I've never considered myself anything close to a "gamer" - and still don't. So, for me Instagib enabled me to quickly grasp the essence of the game: Instagib is beginner friendly while still allowing the players to continously improve, play at really high levels.

Vanilla on the other hand is of course playable at extremely high levels too. But in contrast to Instagib it also has the potential to cause total frustration for new players: I dont' see a newbie getting anywhere close to killing a really good vanilla player in a 1on1 (or even a ctf-game). However, for Instagib the one-hit-kill is an important characteristic allowing newbies to at least get a few random kills against much better players. --> A sense of achievement that keeps the victim hooked!

Take a timeless classic like pacman for example: A friend of mine doesn't play ANY games at all...except for an occasional pacman-game. Would he be doing that if he had to change weapons and stuff to kill the ghosts? I don't think so. Too complicated, too "game-esque".
---> Instagib's simplicity salvages the potential to make TW interesting for CASUAL players like me.

Sadly, the Instagib-community decreased enormously as the TW-community itself. (Of course, you still have openfng.) However, Instagib has already proven to potentially be one of the main partial-communities within TW next to vanilla (and now maybe ddrace even though it doesnt appeal to me).

You just can't fight the fact that Instagib used to be huge. --> Potential (again)

Last comment about openfng: The basic principle is the same as Instagib. However, openfng has this thing of players getting "frozen", then having to throw or "hammer" them into spikes, having spikes of different colours etc. I remain convinced that Instagib is THE mod to attract casual players and/or players that like a minimalistic, fast game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pyUoUuYNbE

I like this video. It's a bit long but it contains all the important mods+vanilla.

Edit: Just wanna mention that I generally think it would be appropriate for an offical trailer to not show any player names. Even the name of the video creator in the beginning would somehow seem out of place...

In the video I posted the names seems removable. (At least if the creator still has the raw material)

HOWEVER, even with names I think the video I posted by "Mystique" is just awesome and miles ahead of this casualtee-thing! (And it actually shows real gameplay instead of just a bunch of short grenade-launcher-scenes randomely cut together.)

Oh, and what I also like is that the music seems suitable for the "mainstream" but still delivers a pretty cool feeling.

Edit²: After watching it again: Maybe one could remove some scenes, like the very last scene showing instagib on ctf5, or some of the ddrace stuff.