[Discussion thread] Name 3 things you want to see in 0.7 (Page 2 of 6)

Don't state this like it's obvious. I believe there would be twice the players if there weren't mods.

Thanks for commenting on the least relevant aspect of my post instead of the suggestions I made in the very same post. Which I will repeat:

"I know that it would be great if the vanilla game type was more in the spotlight. But that has to be accomplished in a way that doesn't include enforcements or controlling, but in a way that for example makes vanilla more present, like featured servers, events or a separated mod server browser, and without discouraging people who want to play Teeworlds differently."

Banning mods from the master server will lead to the pre-0.5 state where mods where imitating vanilla gametypes, which was the reason for introducing custom gametypes. Don't forget that.
Also, banning all mods could result in a Teeworlds fork with own master servers.

I don't think it would be a good idea to fight mods. So instead one could think of ways making vanilla more present and attractive. Like I did above.

Why do people ask for a new skin system?

I like the ideas 1 and 2 but the ELO system without accounts wouldn't work. It would be too easy for players to modify their stats.
Also where did you get the idea that defence requires less skill than attack? Most people, on any skill level, have their own preference of what position they like to play and this has more to do with what they like than with their skill.

If you want to get into higher level games then hangout at #teeworlds-na on quakenet and if there is nothing going on there go yell at people who hang out at inspire ddrace servers that you want to play. This works much better than some broken ELO system would.

The value calculated for your position does not show your skill.
It just shows if you are an attacker or a defender.
This could be useful for higher skilled players to search a ctf-match where for example a defender is needed.

Yes you are right since teeworlds is open source it would be easy to modify stats, but there is no reason to do this as cris272 already explained.

except this:
Trolls are everywhere =

To avoid something like 1000 kills / second there should be a maximum skill-value which is checked server-sided and if it is too high the Server would not send it to the other clients (send a 0).

Some people consider the ability to troll others an advantage. ELO rating is only worth something if it is accurate. If it is just a trust based system you might as well call your servers "noobs only" or "pros only" and trust that people who join adhere to the name. It works just as well and saves the developers some time.

How will the game know what position are you playing? Will the game track you on the map and then decide what your skill is on every position? What you play mid and the opposing team is constantly pushing you into defence position? Or maybe you will have to pick a position from a list before a game and stick to it. But then if you change a position from lets say def to att and forget to change your position in options the ELO script will count you as a bad defender even if you were playing a good attack. I just don't see how this would work.

Also in clan games every clan member has an assigned position and other clan members know positions of other clan members. In pubs and pick-ups it doesn't really matter that much if all players play their best positions. So client side ELO system for ctf games is IMHO a broken solution to a non-existing issue.

Open source is not at all an issue here, it's the fact that the rating would be stored client side. If closing the source would be a solution to securing online games there would be no aimbots, triggerbots and other hacks in closed sourced games.

Over time the average ELO score of players will grow and eventually someone is bound to go over the score limit. Which means there will be tons of noobs who will run around with their ELO score at the limit allowed by the master and a few players who got to the limit by legitimate means and locked their clients to not add anything to their elo score so it won't get nulled by the master server who will be dismissed as one of those noobs because there is no way to actually verify how people got their score.

Also there is one more issue. Can someone here figure out a mathematical formula that will calculate a number that accurately represents one player's average performance level?

How about enabling game servers having the choice to also become chat servers separately?

Sorry if these have been discussed before. Here are my suggestions.

UI
Good main menu
Good settings from the main menu above
Bad controls settings menu from the menu above
The current (better) controls settings menu
Server list suggested changes
Server list suggested changes result
Fix auto-scrolling when refreshing servers list
Add history of visited servers tab--available settings for remembering how many (whether it be 0 or 10)

In-game
In-game menu
Voting bars
Make favorite button more visible somewhere (and place somewhere more intuitive)
Ability to change vote (yes/no)
Make vote reasons optional (or get rid of it all together for potential flaming with it)--typing while urgently playing a game is a hassle

Gameplay
New flag-gates, where people holding the flag cannot pass through the flag-gates, forcing them to take another path
Disable dynamic camera on default

Application
Similar to the Teerace system and its ties with race.teesites.net, we could have a in-game log in system with a key, registered with this forum. (Why not tie everything together in one site?)
Some old anti-AB discussion--account system could be good because of this (of course PMing system would be nice)

Lastly, looking at some clan war videos, it seems like shotguns and grenades are used extensively while lasers are not. Perhaps this calls for a buff to the lasers.

@JinAndJuice
Poor Maxixdxd...

I can't find this thread. Can you link please?

I finally found the thread.

So, what exactly was the result of the analysis? Are there any updates on the progress?

What's the progress on the development?

Is the account system going to be similar to race.teesites.net, where you have a hash/salt code you type in-game?

I'm glad that I do not see any custom skin