1,126 Reply by Dune (edited by Dune 2012-08-25 14:49:57)

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In other words: "We do not support modifications"?

Well...At least the "Standard gametype" filter is on by default. (until they find out and turn it off)

Do you ever read what we write?
Long thing short: Teeworlds is a game, not a kind of modification platform, but mods are welcome.

This menu does not prevent anyone from playing mods, once again. It makes the border clear between Teeworlds and community-made stuff.

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DARK HUNTER wrote:

"We do not support modifications"

Dune wrote:

Long thing short: Teeworlds is a game, not a kind of modification platform, but mods are welcome.

This menu does not prevent anyone from playing mods, once again. It makes the border clear between Teeworlds and community-made stuff.

Is there an echo in here?

Dune wrote:

Do you ever read what we write?

Mostly. Some posts are just too long and I'm lazy to read them whole. I did however read ghost's entire post.

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DARK HUNTER wrote:
DARK HUNTER wrote:

"We do not support modifications"

Dune wrote:

Long thing short: Teeworlds is a game, not a kind of modification platform, but mods are welcome.

This menu does not prevent anyone from playing mods, once again. It makes the border clear between Teeworlds and community-made stuff.

Is there an echo in here?

Not the way I read it.

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Arg, what have any mods done to vanilla? If you are going to put gametype standard on when someone first plays,  Thats racist to any mod, but many people play the "good" mods and vannila.
Whats wrong with people liking other mods? Teeworlds will die without mods. Because people get bored of same old same old deathmatch and ctf and tdm. But, the official gametypes are still really good.

So could we just stop arguing over it and have fun?

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Lord Kirby wrote:

[arguing]...
So could we just stop arguing over it and have fun?

No comment. If you want to stop a discussion, don't enter it.

1,131 Reply by ghost (edited by ghost 2012-08-26 16:18:21)

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I am really sick of this god damn discussion. We do not prevent people from playing mods at all. We just want new players to try vanilla first. We also want the server browser to be organized a little more and we want to separate official stuff from community stuff. Thats all there is to it (no "oh, we hate mods, so lets make sure people dont play them"). I think the new server browser is a good approach to these goals.

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I am really sick of this god damn discussion.
I think the new server browser is a good approach to these goals.

I totally agree with the Ghost ;D
A new server filter is what Teeworlds need.

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OK I understand that your not preventing people from playing mods but including so much filters and making them on by default may look like your forcing players into playing vanilla instead of giving advice.

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DARK HUNTER wrote:

OK I understand that your not preventing people from playing mods but including so much filters and making them on by default may look like your forcing players into playing vanilla instead of giving advice.

ghost wrote:

We do not prevent people from playing mods at all. We just want new players to try vanilla first.

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Hi all
Can teeworlds 0.7 use the .po files for languages ?
so it can be added the plural formats to make language beter smile
I'm a translateor, so i speak about languages only tongue
If teeworlds 0.7 used the .po files....
I hope that each of : "0 of 0 servers, 0 players" be separateed
like: "0 of 0 servers,"
and " 0 players"
and so on...
note: my Eng bad!

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safaalfulaij wrote:

Hi all
Can teeworlds 0.7 use the .po files for languages ?
so it can be added the plural formats to make language beter smile
I'm a translateor, so i speak about languages only tongue
If teeworlds 0.7 used the .po files....
I hope that each of : "0 of 0 servers, 0 players" be separateed
like: "0 of 0 servers,"
and " 0 players"
and so on...
note: my Eng bad!

There are some .txt that you can easily edit, and even commit a new version to teeworlds! smile
Look in data/languages.

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Dune wrote:
safaalfulaij wrote:

Hi all
Can teeworlds 0.7 use the .po files for languages ?
so it can be added the plural formats to make language beter smile
I'm a translateor, so i speak about languages only tongue
If teeworlds 0.7 used the .po files....
I hope that each of : "0 of 0 servers, 0 players" be separateed
like: "0 of 0 servers,"
and " 0 players"
and so on...
note: my Eng bad!

There are some .txt that you can easily edit, and even commit a new version to teeworlds! smile
Look in data/languages.

I know that!
I made the arabic translation already!
but in arabic we cant say (for example): 4 كتاب !
we must to say: 4 كتب ...
and 100 كتاب
كتاب واحد (one book)
كتابين (two books)
etc.
^_^

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In the next version, I'd like the time to be displayed.

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In the next version, I'd like the time to be displayed.

yeah , that would be cool ! , i dont want to go out of teeworlds each 10 mins to see what time it is , :d

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Ioannisjanni wrote:
TeecTac wrote:

In the next version, I'd like the time to be displayed.

yeah , that would be cool ! , i dont want to go out of teeworlds each 10 mins to see what time it is , :d

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1,141 Reply by Dune (edited by Dune 2012-09-06 20:12:28)

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safaalfulaij wrote:

I know that!
I made the arabic translation already!
but in arabic we cant say (for example): 4 كتاب !
we must to say: 4 كتب ...
and 100 كتاب
كتاب واحد (one book)
كتابين (two books)
etc.
^_^

Can you explain me what are the .po files then?

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Ioannisjanni wrote:
TeecTac wrote:

In the next version, I'd like the time to be displayed.

yeah , that would be cool ! , i dont want to go out of teeworlds each 10 mins to see what time it is , :d

I know an ingame-clock written in Lua for the N-Client.

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An ingame clock is absolutely not necessary!

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GBKing wrote:

An ingame clock is absolutely not necessary!

It could be optional.

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safaalfulaij wrote:

Hi all
Can teeworlds 0.7 use the .po files for languages ?
so it can be added the plural formats to make language beter smile
I'm a translateor, so i speak about languages only tongue
If teeworlds 0.7 used the .po files....
I hope that each of : "0 of 0 servers, 0 players" be separateed
like: "0 of 0 servers,"
and " 0 players"
and so on...
note: my Eng bad!

Those .po files are a way to implement localization (wikipedia link). However, after reading through the wikipedia article, I don't see where this differs in any way from what teeworlds is currently using. I don't think what you want (using plural forms of words depending on variables in teeworlds itself)  is possible with .po files (GNU gettext). Actually I think the way teeworlds handles this is quite good, I like the design of the language files, and I see no reason to change to a new system, when our system works perfectly fine.

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ghost wrote:

Those .po files are a way to implement localization (wikipedia link). However, after reading through the wikipedia article, I don't see where this differs in any way from what teeworlds is currently using. I don't think what you want (using plural forms of words depending on variables in teeworlds itself)  is possible with .po files (GNU gettext). Actually I think the way teeworlds handles this is quite good, I like the design of the language files, and I see no reason to change to a new system, when our system works perfectly fine.

the curent files is OK, but it will be better if we use the plural formats...
in the po file you can see:
"single: %d book"
"plural: %d books"
and the translation (if arabic) will be:
"[0] لا كتب"
"[1] كتاب واحد"
"[2] كتابين"
"[3] %d كتب"
"[4] %d كتابا"
"[5] %d كتاب"
the [n] is the plural format to use...
of course you must put the plural formula first of the file.. wink
see this: http://wiki.arabeyes.org/Plural_Forms for the arabic Plural, and this: http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/l10n/pluralforms for all formulas wink
you can see that Belarusian have 3 ways.. as Russian wink

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well teeworlds doesnt decide this on its own. The language files just replaces the specific strings in the game. Are u saying that sometimes the very same string in english has different forms in your language?
Anyway... just chaning the file wont help.

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1,148 Reply by unsigned char* (edited by unsigned char* 2012-09-07 21:56:00)

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Umm... enable custom protocol handler  "teeworlds://" in the system.... http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol

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An ingame clock would be good so that we don't be late for school xDDD

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1,150 Reply by ghost (edited by ghost 2012-09-08 11:52:32)

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safaalfulaij wrote:

the curent files is OK, but it will be better if we use the plural formats...
in the po file you can see:
"single: %d book"
"plural: %d books"
and the translation (if arabic) will be:
"[0] لا كتب"
"[1] كتاب واحد"
"[2] كتابين"
"[3] %d كتب"
"[4] %d كتابا"
"[5] %d كتاب"
the [n] is the plural format to use...
of course you must put the plural formula first of the file.. wink
see this: http://wiki.arabeyes.org/Plural_Forms for the arabic Plural, and this: http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/l10n/pluralforms for all formulas wink
you can see that Belarusian have 3 ways.. as Russian wink

Ok, so I see that GNU gettext is actually capable of doing this, so we could do this on linux systems. But does this also work on other platfomrs like Windows, Mac OS X, BeOS? GNU gettext is not necessarily available there.

Also would you handle a case where you have several variables in one text string?

//EDIT: It seems this will work on all Unix-type systems, however I don't see how it would work on windows, which is a blocking issue in my opinion. However, maybe we could improve the teeworlds way of doing these things (teeworlds currently uses an own function called Localize, which is responisble for returning the correct translated string). I think it would be possible to add the functionality of using plural forms at least for simple cases.

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