[ Closed ] A new "Map Working Group" (Page 6 of 7)

Hello, I would like to propose my two favorite CTF maps:

1. CTF Oasis

This is an old 0.5 ctf Zgokee found, author unknown, and I changed the pickups and sky color on it. The gameplay is just fantastic for me:

http://www.mediafire.com/?mmi7xmvo7kadxho

2. Nilaya's CTF MoonDawn
I just love this map as well and it makes for a really fun wild game, flattish like oasis but with a more intricate bottom and open bases.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19925349/ctf_moondawn.map
https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=9101

To ctf moondawn.. The Base looks strange... There is only One way to the flag.
the Tee respawner Are Too close at the flag... On the Top of the map u can Spam through the Whole map...
But the Design look good

ctf_oasis
Structure:
Quite simple. Still, i like the base, it looks unusual. There's bottom way, easy to defend, and top way, which defenders will probably stick to, as defending from there still allows to catch up on lower enemies. Mid looks also quite nice for me, but prebases are too straight and simple, i'd add something there, or even completely rework it.
Movement:
I really like the movements here. Still, the bottom way looks too straight and easy. You could probably make it harder. Platforms at middle, isle above flag and those vertical connections between two ways make good compilation. I would probably give a little less space at the top way, but that's not critical.
Pickups:
Those are horrible. Placing health so close to the flag isn't the best idea, as well as putting shotguns in those corners near the middle. On the contrary, some pickups seem to be too easy to reach, i'd place them better.
Graphics:
Nuff said, looks great, especially waterfall animation. But i'm not sure if it's teeish enough. That's not the question i can answer correctly.
ctf_moondawn
Structure:
Too simple. Flag is put wrong, it is too open to the spam while is leaving flagtaker in a horrible position. Unhookable tiles are used in quite strange way. I could accept that unhookable pit below as an alternative to death tiles, but putting grenade launcher there along with health denies this try.
Movement:
Also quite straight. Both top and bottom ways are very fast without any obstacles. Top of the map also lacks walls to hook, you could lower the ceiling. And definitely do something to those unhookable tiles.
Pickups:
Also put right on the ways, which together with straight movement creates devastating effect to the gameplay. And once again, grenade launcher at bottom.
Graphics:
Simple, but fine. Not the level of official maps tho.

As a conclusion, i wanna say, that ctf_moondawn doesn't seem as good candidate to addition to 0.7, at least now. ctf_oasis has more chances, even tho a lot of work should be done.

I'm afraid the gameplay will become too chaotic and straight on professional scene. It will be just running around from flag to flag randomly killing people on the way. But i didn't test it in a good match, so i'd say everything is possible, that's just first look.
Still grenade launcher opposes the idea of denying movement at the bot. Even tho the idea is good, it is not thoroughly followed and doesn't cause the effect meant to occur.

I would like to post my map for consideration.  I think at first glance people might think "this map is huge," but in reality the playable area is just about the same size as ctf_5.  The reason it may look bigger than ctf_5 is because the area in ctf_5 that is above and below the playable area is just blank space, while my map contains pits and spikes.  The amount of health/armor/weapons are basically all identical in terms of quantity on the map.

Now, I know a lot of people like smaller maps designed for things like 3v3, but in my experience most servers are hosting 16 players and the most played map seems to be ctf_5.  This is why I chose to design my map based on the specifications of that map.

Here is the link to the thread on my map where any feedback is encouraged:

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10119

Here is a screenshot:

Here is the download link: ctf_maims.map

Please, if you're not able to stand criticism, do not post your maps. Every map has disadvantages, and if you will react to any of those like that, you won't ever recieve constructive replies.
Of course, your map isn't worst. It is better than 80% of the maps created. But that's not enough to consider it as official. The level established by maps such as ctf2 and ctf3 is very high, competing them is hard and requires in-depth analysis of the game and a lot of testing. You can't call for a map to be included in the game just because it's fun. ctf2 is played for 5 years and is still fun. I bet your map will not be fun for that long, because it's not competitive and unbalanced.
I know, it's hard to accept disadvantages of your map, I feel the same, but they do exist, and you have to be objective to them. However, if you will, you may leave some really interesting details of your map like that unhookable floor and rework the rest.

Stop please thinking that i don't know what am I talking about. I do like the idea of unhookable floor, but the way it was made is horrible. That's my point. At second, i told Nilaya that insulting about his map getting criticized is not the best way to prove anything. If it really wasn't his desire to post the map, he could ignore this feedback, especially if it was already discussed and proven wrong.
At third, i have some mapping and gameplay experience, and it is quite big. I realise i'm still not one of the best mappers, but i think i am capable of forming my own feedback without the need of complete game. Of course, i did say that i can't be sure and it's just my opinion, but it should have something in common with truth.
Please, do not react on my words like i'm completely disregarding the possibility that this map is good, The only thing i can say right now is that ctf_moondawn is MOST LIKELY bad IN MY OPINION. Nothing more. But i do play the map ingame, even tho i'm playing alone, you probably got me wrong.

Got a (T)DM map, which may be taken in consideration:

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8273

// example Screenshot

I've already postet it a while ago but i think it's time to revive it in here

dm7 is personally my most-played and favorite map. It is NOT "a hundred times better".

ctf_grasshopper by Alias

Gametype: CTF
Players: 3v3

Image

Download Link

https://downloads.teeworlds.com/solidfi … hopper.map

I know some maps are unfixable but I hope you guys are fixing flaws in potential maps and testing again or taking ideas from them rather than scrapping the map ideas altogether just because there are a few minor design choices.

I completely agree about this but it's a bit too late now. If new names come up I'll never get used to them. What would we call ctf2? ctf45?