DDRace - good and innovative mod? or destroyer of teeworlds, noob mod? (Page 5 of 6)

wth... nobody said that DDRACE will become official...

it is planned to include RACE (yes, there is a race mod without "dd" at the beginning), and i dont think this is useful either.

It's a wrong comparison in my opinion.

Playing CTF alone does not require much skill. Playing CTF against some good players requires skill (but even without skill you can jump around and try to shoot somebody as noob by luck). Playing against lot of good players even requires more skill and teamplay would make sense. On the other side playing DDrace alone (yes there are even alone maps) require most time already skill in movement. However it's not really necessary to aim a fast moving target in DDrace. So it's different. It's often necessary to use special moves you would not need in CTF so far. You may not drop others while hooking at wrong place. Hooking others even is important in CTF (shootgun). You can (or should) have much speed in CTF while you can fail pretty fast by such movements in DDrace, cause you have to be more accurate. Playing DDrace together with good players often lowers the requirement of movement skill from scratch too. I would not say DDrace is a noob-mod but I would even not just say "ddrace is harder then ctf".  Playing on a server with cheats on and helper that got the PW the first day can lower the requirement of skill to zero in DDrace. So it's not just the game or the mod it even depend on others.

Greetings,
Mo(2)

In CTF a newbie cannot kill very experienced people, it's not instagib

For sure he can... if pro is fighting vs pro... and the better one leave with 2 hearts at enemy base the noob can give you the rest and jump funny with the maybe not already returned flag onto his one. Brave noob. Of course the main work was done by another one. But it's not useless what he did.

If you would a server without noobs you have to protect it. But what are we talking about then afterwards? Hey, that are no static values "pro", "noob", ... We are talking about humans. If one pro is playing against two other less-pro the noob can for sure help somewhat if it's a brave non-blocking one. I even play vanilla for a long time now. And I'm not afraid to write: Most time that is consumed on vanilla servers is NO serious planned, started and stopped war but for fun with mixed team vs team of players that join and even leave the game with different skill-levels until it finished randomly. And it's even not always a "your team will loose" question. It can make fun to play for the loosing team too, even in the last minutes of the game. Normally if I join into vanilla CTF server I look which team seems to win an then often I prefer to join the loosing one.

Greetings,
Mo(2)

Problem with good and well-studied, balanced race mods - like HpRACE and so on - is that they do not catch noobs into,  the community there is quite smaller than in "noobish" "just fun" mods (some DDRace maps, City and all that stuff with quadratic maps made by mappers who aren't), and then it doesn't grow, even if it "would be really good".

DDRace is baby's first gametype, deal with it

it's for noobs, and always will be

No i think people who are hooking each other when they wanna run away aimobotters. When you have an aimbot and you want to hook then you hook the one next to you. I see this many times. Also i get killed much when people can't even see me.

source? as long as there is non announcment from the official teeworlds developers or well more like the teeworlds gurus, I wont believe anything concerning such statements

I don't agree. There are DDRace maps that can be played by noobs but most start with a zip file that came with standard-gametype and standard-maps on by default. There are pro gamers in normal gameplay but you can't say it's the standard. And even if we talk of standard-gametype there is a difference. Playing CTF1 or DM1 remembers me more to a "fun game" or to Jump'n'bump. Even bigger standard-maps can be played by newbies. I told my friend from TW. He tried and left. Don't know if he had more interest if I pointed him to DDRace at first. But at this time the gametype I played was still CTF. Or should I write CTF5? It's just a map for sure - but compared to CTF1 there is a big difference. Don't know if I had found DDRace if there where no CTF5. Idea: If would avoid people playing DDRace remove CTF5 from standard maps . I think many would leave TW before they search for more then they got already. No that's not meant serious. However some told me something like CTF2 is the better map anyway (it was in the IRC channel of the normal race-mod).

Greetings,
Mo(2)

Before somebody got the idea to release that DDRace mod (he'd better have slept all the day), the RACE mod was a very popular mod, as well as the Instagib mod, and that mod wasn't that criticized. We don't say DDRace is crap just because it's "surpassing the original game in terms of popularity", but because we truely think what we say.

ddrace is like christianity

vastly popular, but the most shit religion of them all