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Re: DDRace - good and innovative mod? or destroyer of teeworlds, noob mod?

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77 (edited by Scylla 2010-11-09 16:16:08)

Re: DDRace - good and innovative mod? or destroyer of teeworlds, noob mod?

Slayer *gV* wrote:

Hellsings, when i read kiddy-shit like ur post, i think ur right. We shouldnt ban DDrace, but we should set up an age-limit so kiddies like u wont be able to annoy me anymore. (And after all kiddies are banned no ddrace players will be left, either...wow its an intelligent idea yikes)

Yea i kinda was annoyed by you guys and i apologise because of being an idiot i had alot of problems in my family so now im better and im not a kiddy at my point of view i still am unexperienced and have alot to learn but atleast i know how to state something "usually", that day wasn't a very nice day for me so yeah. But i hope you got my point you shouldn't dismiss people for just liking DDrace (atleast those who aren't noobs like you said) and not liking the pure gametypes. I know what it's like to be dismissed in the society for not doing anything and trust me its horrible.
They just didn't like CTF that much and created a new mod smile.
But there are alot of noobs who are just arrogant and mean, but not all are like that some are quite skilled and awesome.
I play mostly instagib because i just dont like the fact of teeworlds being complicated i know i know... 4 weapons isnt too complicated but it is for me if it was like gCtf (no ammo picking up and cant get killed by a rocket jump well that should be implented with CTF for the laser and the other weapons, after that i would be a great fan of Ctf smile)

I apologise again for being a complete assface but i hope you got my point. You shouldn't ban it you should work together with it (they did got alot of noobs into the game but some might provide support for the development of teeworlds or even go to Ctf and play it, you never know)
So dont fight it live with it.
Oh and why shouldn't the devs make something like a pure DDrace servers (just with the race mod but the dummy drag type just as Kottizen said)

Hellsings

"The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane." Nikola Tesla.

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alias wrote:

Edit x 2: I nearly rofl'd when i saw this! i bet more than half the votes that say I love ddrace are from here. http://ddrace.info/forum/content.php?15 … eb6c6872ee

Yeah, that's pretty what I meant when asking them to please stop asking people to create accounts just to vote there. It's gonna be an ad war.
And that's also what I meant when saying a poll was pointless for such a topic like this one.

Not Luck, Just Magic.

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Hum.............. I'd hope to get a realistic view of how people feel about it. I guess some day I'll go to 20 random severs and ask the people if they like DDRace and why. Wright down the general response of the players and report here. But one thing that this topic could still accomplish is to avoid flam wars about DDRace on unsuspecting DDRace maps. I would like to say, anyone who hates DDRace to set that aside when you see DDRace maps. Judge it by it's DDRace quality, but unfortunately, most of them do suck. lol

Give others the respect you wish to be respected with. In the mean time, enjoy the website!

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Dune wrote:

Mo, reread that post, and stop considering the large audience of DDRace as an argument for gameplay.

I already read what you wrote. If you still think DDrace is a mod for newbies or all those players are dumb guys that can't differ crap from good gameplay themself then please save your time.


Like other people said, DDRace modders haven't been wise enough to limit the amount of useless features they're offering to administrators.

I think the first maps that I played longer then a few minutes even included lasers and I still like it. koule_III_longer is one example I played many, many times and it would not be the same without lasers. 


Teeworlds does not offer cheats to administrators or unlimited ammo, huh?

Ammo in DDrace does not kill? Yes I think I know what you mean but a DDrace-Server with "sv_cheats 0" should be the same.


Greetings,
Mo(2)

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Bee wrote:

I'd hope to get a realistic view of how people feel about it

Then close you webbrowser and open your TW-Client and look what people are playing before you assume here is something going wrong. Do you think everybody who is playing TW or DDrace is reading forums? Do you think many DDrace-players feel welcome here (when some spit again and again on it in various ways)?

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i prefer they are not welcome here, but we have some that are very nice smile (heinrich)

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Re: DDRace - good and innovative mod? or destroyer of teeworlds, noob mod?

The question of banning DDRace or making it official is the question of making people liking your game or making your game that way people like it.

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Zeta-Hoernchen wrote:

The question of banning DDRace or making it official is the question of making people liking your game or making your game that way people like it.

/sign

Besides, if you wanna know how much people like DDRace create a statistic about how many people are frequently playing on DDRace server. The last time i checked it there were 10% vanilla players and 50% DDR-players.

Antoine de Saint Exupéry: It seems that perfection is reached not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
Besides -  I am the gfx guy!

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Zeta-Hoernchen wrote:

The question of banning DDRace or making it official is the question of making people liking your game or making your game that way people like it.

The question of making DDRace official or not (it's no matter about banning him is the question of implementing all the features people can possibly like or only implement wise features than can afford good and balanced gameplay to the community.

Not Luck, Just Magic.

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Re: DDRace - good and innovative mod? or destroyer of teeworlds, noob mod?

DDrace isn't gonna get official. It's not being developed by the people developing teeworlds, and it has very little to do with Teeworlds at all, besides from leeching on Teeworlds engine and infrastructure.

WC3 shouldn't be patched into becoming DOTA just because alot of people use WC3 to play DOTA. DOTA is instead turning to its own game (DOTA2). I'd say the same thing is probably gonna happen with Teeworlds and DDrace in the future, anything else would be bad for both communities. They are two different games with different merits(who happen to share the same engine).

Official Teeworlds map developer and community moderator
Administrator for the Teeworlds community Teesites

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Chi11y wrote:

DDrace isn't gonna get official. It's not being developed by the people developing teeworlds, and it has very little to do with Teeworlds at all, besides from leeching on Teeworlds engine and infrastructure.

WC3 shouldn't be patched into becoming DOTA just because alot of people use WC3 to play DOTA. DOTA is instead turning to its own game (DOTA2). I'd say the same thing is probably gonna happen with Teeworlds and DDrace in the future, anything else would be bad for both communities. They are two different games with different merits(who happen to share the same engine).

i like ddrace, but i know wc3 and dota too smile
nice comparison...

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Re: DDRace - good and innovative mod? or destroyer of teeworlds, noob mod?

In the vote u see that DDrace destroys the Original Teeworlds.. the most players like DDrace more than vanilla ... it's frustrating.. .__.

89 (edited by 19Ama93 2010-11-11 02:06:24)

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Hey Com im Ama some people know me maybe XDD

I wanted to say ddrace is the only fun mod there is in tw you can lough about your epic fails do stupid stuff  like hammer fly hookfly hammer up   its the only good mod for 2 people  the new team function is the best thing ever so you dont get stupiud noobs to play with you XD if you wanna fast run !! yeah and nothing has to be perfect in this mod so there are no stupid aim bots XD vanilla ist just so boring you just kill each other 10.000.000 times to see that you won another round and what u get nothing XD u just bored hammering other people ur finger hurts always the same maps always the same 2-3 tilesets you get sick of it i started playing tw with spaceball and then i changed to ddrace first as a racer nor more a mapper then a racer but still fun to play if you play maps that take more skill then koule couse koule were the first maps yeah and they were hard 2 years ago now you see 500 cheats in them XDD
couse u learn how to play from great new maps good that we got new maps or we would be stuck in the same stage forever like vanilla but if you have fun playing a game on ur own killing little tees then have fun
ddrace is the only thing i play tw for if you ban ddrace from tw me and probably more then 80 % of the players would delete tw couse its FUN big_smile
so have fun with vanilla but i dont see the fun in it
For all ddracers   and mappers  I love you all XDD 
but not the noobs XD

Ama (muahhahahah)

90 (edited by analog 2010-11-11 02:34:48)

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19Ama93 wrote:

if you ban ddrace from tw me and probably more then 80 % of the players would delete tw
Ama (muahhahahah)

Getting to the Point
I honestly don't think people will stop playing Teeworlds if DDRace is gone. When I was new, I used to play Beachfight iCTF and only that. I used to think that Beachfight was the only map in the world, and that nothing else was "pro". I also though CTF and such were noob mods. I became fast at moving, and I went inactive for several months. When I came back, I found that iCTF was hardly hosted, and Beachfight had gone away with it. Attempting to cope with my loss, I didn't DELETE teeworlds. You know why? Teeworlds makes you ambitious, it makes you determined to be able to play everything. I decided to try some catch16, then fng. When the number of catch servers fell to a minuscule amount, I knew I would have to adapt again. I lost all of my favorite gametypes, maps, and more. But did I delete teeworlds?

The Final Verdict
No. I started to play what I had left.

What is Hoped for in the Future
I hope everyone is able to play what they have, and not qq when they don't have what they want. I mean... people play the game, for the game. Not the mod. I'm pretty sure if there were only one gametype, where you can only jump around, shoot, talk, etc., people would still play it. That's just the way teeworlds is. The movement, though simple, is extremely fun to control. The hook, which is mainly fun with hooking others, also keeps you playing. Though there are only a few weapons, there could be a lot of fun still. Teeworlds is a jewel (:

What You Should Do
Don't like the way Teeworlds is? Go QQ to your DDRace god or something. I know you guys like DDRace, but don't try to spam the forums by telling all your DDRace buddies to come register and post "Omg ddrace is the best please it should be official vanilla sux". Doesn't solve anything.

What I Think Would Work for All of Us
Sure, DDRace isn't a bad mod. But it does suck how it is the top mod. I mean... DDRace can be easily reproduced without a mod.. You can make partnership parts in a CTF map, and put a flag at the end. I've done it.

I Don't Care
I don't give two sh*ts about how much you and your buddiez love DDRace, and i honestly don't care if half the population of Teeworlds leaves. I don't even know them. Here is the inequality I came up with:
http://i55.tinypic.com/2v3n9rb.png

Have a nice day.

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Hi Folks,

General Shakes here. I wanted to add my 2 cents to this discussion as I have been around for a while and host several servers (and play on all of them (two of which are ddrace)).

First, on the topic of mods and whether they should be banned. To me, this is a dangerous thing to say. Teeworlds is built and offered in and of open source software. The TW community includes (to its benefit I might add) varieties of players not seen in other games (from brand new players to developers, worldwide). If we didn't want to enjoy this type of ecosystem, why go open source? However, I completely understand NOT SUPPORTING mods. The difference here is crucial.

Second, I generally find people play ddrace to enjoy the mechanics of the game. For instance, a player in vanilla might be rewarded for accurate shooting ability, a player in ddrace is rewarded by execution of technical maneuvers. These are just two of the many ways to enjoy TW. Each mod represents someone who is thoughtful enough to augment and offer the playerbase a new way to enjoy TW.

Last, I don't buy this idea that ddrace is harmful to TW or to/for new players. If new players can learn to find ddrace, they can learn to find ctf. It may focus there attention away from other mods or vanilla, it is a stretch to say it is harmful.

Cheers,

General Shakes

*shakes!

92 (edited by Dune 2010-11-11 12:25:28)

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alias wrote:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2v3n9rb.png

alias wrote:

I have nothing to do

Man, make the same one in smaller format and I add it to sign big_smile
Edit: ah, no pictures in sign tongue

Not Luck, Just Magic.

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Infamy wrote:

Hi Folks,

General Shakes here. I wanted to add my 2 cents to this discussion as I have been around for a while and host several servers (and play on all of them (two of which are ddrace)).

First, on the topic of mods and whether they should be banned. To me, this is a dangerous thing to say. Teeworlds is built and offered in and of open source software. The TW community includes (to its benefit I might add) varieties of players not seen in other games (from brand new players to developers, worldwide). If we didn't want to enjoy this type of ecosystem, why go open source? However, I completely understand NOT SUPPORTING mods. The difference here is crucial.

Second, I generally find people play ddrace to enjoy the mechanics of the game. For instance, a player in vanilla might be rewarded for accurate shooting ability, a player in ddrace is rewarded by execution of technical maneuvers. These are just two of the many ways to enjoy TW. Each mod represents someone who is thoughtful enough to augment and offer the playerbase a new way to enjoy TW.

Last, I don't buy this idea that ddrace is harmful to TW or to/for new players. If new players can learn to find ddrace, they can learn to find ctf. It may focus there attention away from other mods or vanilla, it is a stretch to say it is harmful.

Cheers,

General Shakes

i love this post. i absolutely agree with you!

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alias you know what you say makes no f***ing sence you a solo player normal that you can change from 1 mod to another but people who like playing as a team i think its the only fun thing in tw you help each other and stuff if u delete that from teeworlds teeworlds is gonna blow in half XDD and you wont kill any noobs on the maps XDDyou play i went into dm yesterday for 1 round what happend i won beeing a total noob i think that is such a noob mod i cant believe it XD you just hammer and you win in ddrace you run with your team parter(s) for your life XDD

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Re: DDRace - good and innovative mod? or destroyer of teeworlds, noob mod?

It's sad to see how you vanilla lovers act, I'm here because i want to make tw a better place, i want to have DDRace be something you guys can accept and also i don't want to destroy DDRace.

when i come and read posts like the alias (who wants teeworlds for him self and his friends and doesn't care about others), it makes me feel that it's impossible to reach a reasonable agreement when all he cares about is destroying DDRace, i have put my self in TW Point of View and i see why you guys Hate DDRace why don't you go ahead and try and see it from DDR point of view, then and only then we can reach somewhere in between where we both are satisfied

I'm Willing to Co-operate and make DDRace co-exist with tw in harmony and i would even go out of my way and work hard for this to happen, because i think matricks created this game for people to enjoy it not to have a pissing contest about DDRace.

in short i am doing this because i respect the devs.

due to the senselessness of the argument of this thread i will not come here to read it anymore, my email is greyfoxgti(at(@))gmail.com   replace (at(@)) with @
if you have something sensible to talk to me about i am all ears, but this thread is going to end in a world class flame war.

i urge the mods to close this thread, i will seek the Developers to workout something with them, or at least some people who get to have a say in this.


http://i55.tinypic.com/2v3n9rb.png
btw i belong with the childish people, and i will keep supporting those so called childish people, because i know they care, and by my standards that is better than selfish thinking about their selves only and no one else.


Have a nice day

if you are looking for support for DDRace, please go to http://DDRace.info.

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GreYFoX wrote:

It's sad to see how you vanilla lovers act, I'm here because i want to make tw a better place, i want to have DDRace be something you guys can accept and also i don't want to destroy DDRace.

when i come and read posts like the alias (who wants teeworlds for him self and his friends and doesn't care about others), it makes me feel that it's impossible to reach a reasonable agreement when all he cares about is destroying DDRace, i have put my self in TW Point of View and i see why you guys Hate DDRace why don't you go ahead and try and see it from DDR point of view, then and only then we can reach somewhere in between where we both are satisfied

I'm Willing to Co-operate and make DDRace co-exist with tw in harmony and i would even go out of my way and work hard for this to happen, because i think matricks created this game for people to enjoy it not to have a pissing contest about DDRace.

in short i am doing this because i respect the devs.

due to the senselessness of the argument of this thread i will not come here to read it anymore, my email is greyfoxgti(at(@))gmail.com   replace (at(@)) with @
if you have something sensible to talk to me about i am all ears, but this thread is going to end in a world class flame war.

i urge the mods to close this thread, i will seek the Developers to workout something with them, or at least some people who get to have a say in this.


http://i55.tinypic.com/2v3n9rb.png
btw i belong with the childish people, and i will keep supporting those so called childish people, because i know they care, and by my standards that is better than selfish thinking about their selves only and no one else.


Have a nice day

You don't seem childish-- I mean the part of the DDRace community that says "Gimme admin/helper etc. and I am pro " and stuff . I mean, don't you feel that there are more childish people in the DDRace community than any other gametype?

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couse koule were the first maps yeah and they were hard 2 years ago now you see 500 cheats in them XDD

I think sometimes it's little bit like a box with water in it. Putting one tile to the wrong place may be very dangerous in ddrace. People may find it sometimes and (!) jump on it... wink Sometimes there are really strange ideas of the players to go another way the mapper thought they should go.

Greetings,
Mo(2)

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Re: DDRace - good and innovative mod? or destroyer of teeworlds, noob mod?

DDrace will stay the most played gametype. DDrace is fun cause there is always a higher level. When you think you can do everything of ddrace then there will come something new in the maps what youve never done. There is also a large amount of maps. So it won't be boring cause of playing the same map again and again. Ctf and all the gametypes are also fun. But there are many aimbotters who destroy the fun of ctf and dm and everything. And i want to say something about the fact that many people say why dont you make a map for an official mod. People who actually read the forum may have seen that in the new version of teeworlds ddrace is also gonna be an official mod. And i totally agree with heinrich from the fact that it's getting bored to see topics like ddrace is boring. DDrace is harder then ctf and people who are to lazy to learn it wont see the fun of it!!!

New ingame name is xLazyMF

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so. why is ddrace harder than ctf?

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Tw0Face wrote:

People who actually read the forum may have seen that in the new version of teeworlds ddrace is also gonna be an official mod. And i totally agree with heinrich from the fact that it's getting bored to see topics like ddrace is boring. DDrace is harder then ctf and people who are to lazy to learn it wont see the fun of it!!!

lol give me a quote plz ddrace so never gonna be  official thats for sure. Hell freezes before ddrace is becoming official teeworlds