[ Closed ] Teewars license

The license was chosen in a hurry and was very restrictive because we/I didn't have time to look through all options. We have a new license for 0.4.0 that is much much more liberal (think zlib/libpng). The reason why we don't want forks is because there should only need to be one version of teewars, and thats the good version.

>>think zlib/libpng

Does this mean that you will allow derivation? ("Will it be GPL-compatible?" is the main question here =) )

>>The reason why we don't want forks is because there should only need to be one version of teewars, and thats the good version.

I think in nearly all cases people would contribute to you rather than forking.

I think the contributions/-ors in the open-source world depend on the permission to change the code though. Because contributors can't be sure that you won't decide one day "everything in Teewars shall be pink."

Forking only takes place when original projects die afaik. (eg. SuperTuxKart)

PS: I understand your wish to create the best Teewars but I don't understand why your method seems to be forbidding modification. =(

I wanted to start such topic since I first saw teewars and it's license.txt, a few weeks ago. I was not sure on how to convince developers, that making teewars free as in freedom is not bad at all, and finally you, qubodup, jumped ahead of me. Now I can say I fully agree with you on this matter. :)

There will be only one version of teewars even if you adapt free software license and someone forks this project, because forks cannot use original projects name. :P

This license is compatible with GPL, it should be ok.

IMHO developers made a great game (thanks!) and this project is quite perspective and healthy. There should be no reasons for someone to fork.

I cannot agree with You in 100%. You are talking mainly about crap(like SuperTuxKart which is unplayable, much more worser than original), or PPRacer(maps made by kid or /dev/urandom, not like old TuxRacer one), look i.e. on Joomla(fork of commercial Mambo). I know that is a bit different/complicated story(fork was made by coworkers, that wanted to develop in the clear way.. There was also many GPL soft(mainly linux/busybox/mplayer illegal forks), by many leading companies like Cisco, Kiss, Ericson....but they were illegal. Now with GPL is problem with server side software(you must distribute source only while you are distributing binaries), so theres AGPL.
I really like quake2 forks like Warsow or Nexuiz(theres some Quake3 like Tremoulous), but they are much to different(maybe better words is "based on code") form originals, so they cannot compete.
Im really happy that game is using Free/portable libraries, and give source so we can run it on any arch/OS (remember Stallman and new closed HP problem, theres no problem with that license). Bigger companies probably will not use GPLed source(because they will be not able to close it), but im use that there will be(if game will get more popular) many shiity "mods" like NeochildWars_blinkig&shiny_ALL, or Teewars_AutoAim_MegaWarezHack_by_5UCK3R, but providing any source probably will cause it(they feel 1337 h4x0rz, because they can show friends sth popular with their nicks). But not providing source will be like move excluding users of exotic Operating Systems, and procesor architectures, like latest Soldat with PB not working in WINE.
Im a Linux/FreeSoftware Extremist(using gnash instead flash , but I know that you written this game from scratch(including artwork), and game for me is definetly perfect(gfx/music[maybe sometimes annoying]/gameplay), and Open Source(resctrictive licesne, but avaible), and I really dont work to anybody get profits form Yours hard work, and trying to destroy Yours project to make moneys, or some idiots chalanging in mods and stupidity, so definitely BSD or ZLIB like license is BAD, because they ALLOWS TO CLOSE SOURCE of forks. BSD is Public Domain like, ZLIB force only to return diffs to modified code(only your code, not their around yours which will be secret). LGPL allow for dynamically linking with closed source, so best for You probably will be GPL for game and AGPL(for server, will not allow to close network protocol) mix. Delaying in time relicensing Artwork can be good idea, until game(and their name) will gain strong popularity(or project will fall), so anybody will recognize any fork as Your game. I also think that any fork w/o Yours artwork will be useless, because there many similar game, but any has so HQ artwork/animations(i love chain reactions, and moving). ID software also provided only source for Quake engines under GPL, Eternal Lands too. And deciding voice gaved Stallman saying that Art not must be free   Its Your decision, I wanted only to share my Linux/OSS experience, and Im not against Public Domaining it. (now please give me armor to protect from FreeSoftware Zealots

//SuperTux is best Mario/JazzJack Rabbit(story based single player) replacement, now we has also network mode JJRabbit replacemat, which was playable trouch WINE, but 640x480 was frustrating. I saw some "Race" maps, why theres not downloading maps from server option ?

I have written it already

evil_core, it's rather hard to read your post, please use quotes - I must assume that you were answering to freegamer. I also recommend more paragraphs, as the text seems to have context/sense-changes inside of one line.

What are you talking about? You have to either explain it in detail or to provide sources.

Sources plz?

Different from what? From Teewars? You know, these games are not using the quake engines, they use engines, which are based on the quake engines. Darkplaces and QFusion are actually the "proof" that changing source and forking is a good thing.

<troll>Maybe it would be worth it. Not providing source just to prevent script kiddies to do shitty mods </troll>

Why don't you want anybody to get profits from their hard work? How could making monies destroy the Teewars project? Why does it at all matter weather some idiot changes the source and releases it? Nobody will care if it sucks.

Please explain/re-formulate this sentence. I don't understand it.

I dislike non-free art licenses. I hope teewars' team will license game source and data under a gpl-compatible license.

Please ask/tell the devs of the projects, nobody will profit from you keeping your complaints to yourself or from you writing them in places, where the devs of the projects won't find them.

@DEVS:
1. The year is 2008 now
2. DELETED Sorry, I didn't see the 0.4.0 in the post at the top. I wish you would do it faster though