1 (edited by otis 2008-05-19 22:28:01)

Topic: anyone else miss ctf2?

I loved playing the classic ctf2 map (with all the weapons - not instagib or other mods) but now it's hardly possible to find anyone playing it anymore. The autodownload feature probably has a lot to do with it having slowly vanished.

I have no ideas or suggestions but wanted to see if there are some ideas may be on the developer's side how to give it a boost so it can come back to life.

-ot

2 (edited by Captain AMN 2008-05-19 22:44:56)

Re: anyone else miss ctf2?

WTF?
Absolute bullshit. lol
There are so many players playing standard CTF2, that i sometimes can't join the servers because they are full!

I adore CTF2 and it is the map me and my clan play most(just like all the other clans that have a bit of experience and don't focus on crappy mods which ruin your feeling for the game[don't play modded servers too often,though they're fun!])

So if you have some mates visit us at CTF2 wink we will be there waiting for you smile

Have fun, rock on cool

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This is not true AMN. The truth is that good CTF2 servers are mostly empty and there is only one or two which on ppl play. BTW one is instagib modded.

And what about CTF1? I like CTF2 better but it was very funny to play CTF1 time to time and now it is almost unreachable beacuse nobody plays.

I think the only way to boost CTF2 is to play it. I almost puke when i see this hundreds of lost - instagib servers. But there are ppl who play good maps and thank god for them. I mean of course POLICE clan, P.I. clan ( Bass, Oevi, Wombat... ), dee1991 and many other players:D

You wanna get high?

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Its true, active CTF2 games are hardly to find. Its not that the servers are missing, but most players are found in pirates and lost instagib.

I don't know why, I guess people just for a change, now they have played CTF2 for so long.

While there is sometimes a "pro" CTF2 game to be found, I haven't played a CTF1 for ages...

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+1 It is hard to find a ctf2 server with players.

Please fp8 team, we want the normal ctf2 server :'(

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+1

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Well,
Today Towelie and Virax from the police clan came on an instagib server and ruined the game by cheating, to tell people to stop playing on modded servers. As I am unable to find the url of their forum to talk about that with they I come here and hope that we'll can have a constructive debate.

I agree with you when you say that normal map are not played enough, but I also think that sometimes instagib is fun. Instagib mod exists on other games and that don't ruins them. As Towelie said :

I think the only way to boost CTF2 is to play it.

If you came on an instagib server and cheat, you'll annoy people but they'll just go on another server, there are so many servers ... This is not a good method to convince people. I can't bear pirate and lost maps, and I just don't play them.

And, if people only wants to play on modded server, well just hope they'll change their mind, you can't do anything else. You tell that "it is not the game" but the game is what players do...

Play ctf_fall if you dare!

8 (edited by catpaw 2008-06-09 16:22:38)

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While I truely miss the good old ctf1 / ctf2 games, this is a development not too uncommon when I think of it.

I know two other 2D shooting gammes, which both were designed as multi-hit-deaths, where the main stream (most successfull servers) went for a single-hit-death configurations.

1st game: Xpilots, one of the oldest graphical multiplayer games ever, where the default map "new globe" is hardly played, because you need there a lot of  hits to kill someone. The most successfull maps of all are "new dark hell" and "bloodmusic" both instea-death configurations.

2nd game: Continuum (subspace): Also here originally an energy dependant game, where you need 2 or 3 hits to kill an enemy, where trenchwars is the single most successfull server. Also with a singleshot=death configuration (with exception of the spidership, which just disbables the firepower of another ship on the first hit and kills on the 3rd or 4th hit.)

Somehow seems to be a "natural" development people seem to prefer...

9 (edited by Marik 2008-06-09 16:55:47)

Re: anyone else miss ctf2?

@ ubuntu try ckz server it is always a ctf 2 server and sometimes QS make their fp8 server too ctf 2

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The reason that ppl play instagib is that instagib is easier, period. Instagib does only require fast reactions whilst vanilla gaming requires so much more in terms of ammo, choosing the right weapon and such. What Teeworlds needs is good clans, tournaments and ladders, so the good players will have something fun and challenging to play, getting "good" @ instagib takes minutes, and is much more luckbased than vanilla playing.

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Chi11y wrote:

The reason that ppl play instagib is that instagib is easier, period. Instagib does only require fast reactions whilst vanilla gaming requires so much more in terms of ammo, choosing the right weapon and such. What Teeworlds needs is good clans, tournaments and ladders, so the good players will have something fun and challenging to play, getting "good" @ instagib takes minutes, and is much more luckbased than vanilla playing.

Are you kidding? Instagib is as challenging as plain vanilla. The main difference is, that you have to aim more precisely and you need not to hook the other tees to kill them. It needs more concentration and more communication for tactics.

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Everyone I know that plays teeworlds for the first times plays better instagib than vanilla, just beacuase it doesnt require any tw-specific skills, just reflexes and good aim.

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13 (edited by Landil 2008-06-10 19:57:28)

Re: anyone else miss ctf2?

It's the same as when teewars got popular. When I began playing it, most of the ppl played really bad. Then a professionalization took place (e.g. gll). Now one can observe a similar process at instagib, too. There are few who dominate the maps, with an incredible accuracy and perfection. (If you wanna test it, you're invited to play against me wink)

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Besides -  I am the gfx guy!

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So what you want to say Landil is that you go with the flow and play noob instagib. Oo (kidding big_smile)
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I miss CTF2&CTF1, there are only like 40 players i know that can rule the map..but either the server is full or the ppl aren't online. sad

If our clan had an own server(or if anyone of us had a neat connection) it definetely would be standard CTF2.

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I actually never liked ctf2. It´s way too hard to defend the flag so it always comes down to looking all over the huge map for the flag carrier.

Ctf1 is nice, but a bit too small.

My favourite ctf maps so far are ctf_desert1 and Groundhives. Desert1 is just awesome. Small enough that you can´t hide, and airy enough to work with a lot of players. Groundhives also plays really well, every path has a clear purpose.

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Dreamy, I think you have mixed up Groundhives and Crossroads =P
Groundhives is a DM-map

Used to be very active waay back

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FireArrow wrote:

Dreamy, I think you have mixed up Groundhives and Crossroads =P
Groundhives is a DM-map

Indeed. Damn, been a while, memories getting vague.

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azmeuk wrote:

Well,
Today Towelie and Virax from the police clan came on an instagib server and ruined the game by cheating,[...]

Wow thanks! Didn't know we are that good ! big_smile
I know sometimes new players call us cheaters cause they have problems living more than few secs, but good to hear that from you too lol

POLICE FTW! smile

Police server with plain CTF2 is online and waits for you!!1111111111

Good pings but somehow small repetitive skipping lags =/
Can't figure out why...

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Captain AMN wrote:
azmeuk wrote:

Well,
Today Towelie and Virax from the police clan came on an instagib server and ruined the game by cheating,[...]

Wow thanks! Didn't know we are that good ! big_smile
I know sometimes new players call us cheaters cause they have problems living more than few secs, but good to hear that from you too lol

POLICE FTW! smile

ffs. deal with your clanmates behaviour instead, you know as much as me that it is bad manners to go to a server and spam or such to get them to join another server... <.<

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I never ever seen us do that, or heard it from anyone. Also its quite easy to fake someone so anyone can join any server with ur nick for example and spam etc etc. Dont forget: were the police, and ure the bandits. xD
Srsly POLICE doesnt do such things. Never.

We will meet again when the flowers spread their glorious scent of victory and the birds sing us the melody of justice...

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Chi11y wrote:

ffs. deal with your clanmates behaviour instead, you know as much as me that it is bad manners to go to a server and spam or such to get them to join another server... <.<

Struck a nerve, did I ? big_smile

No problem chi11y, come to our server and i can teach you some basic stuff.
It may be hard for you at the beginning, but practice makes perfect, i told you that already! Just don't give up! lol

Maybe one day you can join our clan! But you need to be a very good player sad

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I (personally) wouldn't join police for a large sum of money. <_<

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Roanoke wrote:

I (personally) wouldn't join police for a large sum of money. <_<

+1

/me gets back his old hated bind :<

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I don't like clans, except when they're made up of your close friends.

Hiding in the Alps.

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I think clans are ok, bad clans are rather an exception than the rule.

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