1 Topic by lolnameless (edited by lolnameless 2013-05-02 15:53:12)

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Topic: Feasibility of moding teeworlds without C++?

Some youngsters are learning from language like Scheme, or Racket. On the other hand, C++ is very hard to work on. For instance, i want to re-implement Infection, which shouldn't be a very big deal, but i can't because i don't want to C++.

As we can see on other post, we appreciate a mod-friendly version or something like that. I just think that, a truly mod-friendly version isn't a monster bundles every configuration possible, it is too ad-hoc.

If one can abstract the code base, but keep the graphics stuff in C++, to allow something like "extension language", much like emacs, then we can possibly write less on C++ but more on the others.

Finally, I don't know C++ so i may not understand what i am talking, sorry about that.

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Re: Feasibility of moding teeworlds without C++?

You can code everything for teeworlds using lua. Ask about it on n-lvl.com

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3 Reply by kingtee.ger (edited by kingtee.ger 2013-05-02 18:32:19)

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Re: Feasibility of moding teeworlds without C++?

To Lua modding:
• You can modificate the Client and the Server
• Here are a N-Client Lua function Documentation http://n-lvl.com/ndc/lua_doc/
• N-Client Forum
• iX:MAP94, [TeeKnight]Patrick, BotoX and Patafix work on the Client
• here you can find a few lua scripts http://nclient.n-lvl.com/extras.php

Create a new Thread on the n-lvl.com forum under the category "N-Client" if you have any questions about lua for the N-Client
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Re: Feasibility of moding teeworlds without C++?

You can't do much of anything good without knowing programming. There sure are some modified clients accepting LUA, but that looks like client-side only, AND you will need to learn programming anyway, or you'll not be able to do much more than changing values.

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Re: Feasibility of moding teeworlds without C++?

Teeworlds have KISS user interface, KISS graphics, KISS physics, KISS objects, KISS rules ...etc.

^You can see teeworlds successes to certain degrees thanks to KISS.

Therefore, I think that if you like KISS, C++ really isn't the answer.

By that i have no mean to criticize anything, i am not necessarily refer to lua or n-client, not saying C++ is hard to learn. Just point out that C++ is comparatively weak to engage contribution from non-devs. What can be done next have yet to discuss.

To elaborate, i think that a teeworlds consists of performance critical tasks in C++ and other things in a KISS language would be great.

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Re: Feasibility of moding teeworlds without C++?

Now that didn't make sense.

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Re: Feasibility of moding teeworlds without C++?

lolnameless wrote:

Teeworlds have KISS user interface, KISS graphics, KISS physics, KISS objects, KISS rules ...etc.

^You can see teeworlds successes to certain degrees thanks to KISS.

Therefore, I think that if you like KISS, C++ really isn't the answer.

By that i have no mean to criticize anything, i am not necessarily refer to lua or n-client, not saying C++ is hard to learn. Just point out that C++ is comparatively weak to engage contribution from non-devs. What can be done next have yet to discuss.

To elaborate, i think that a teeworlds consists of performance critical tasks in C++ and other things in a KISS language would be great.

Maybe you should start with KISS when writing your posts wink *evil grin*

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Re: Feasibility of moding teeworlds without C++?

Landil wrote:

Maybe you should start with KISS when writing your posts wink *evil grin*

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Re: Feasibility of moding teeworlds without C++?

Landil wrote:
lolnameless wrote:

Teeworlds have KISS user interface, KISS graphics, KISS physics, KISS objects, KISS rules ...etc.

^You can see teeworlds successes to certain degrees thanks to KISS.

Therefore, I think that if you like KISS, C++ really isn't the answer.

By that i have no mean to criticize anything, i am not necessarily refer to lua or n-client, not saying C++ is hard to learn. Just point out that C++ is comparatively weak to engage contribution from non-devs. What can be done next have yet to discuss.

To elaborate, i think that a teeworlds consists of performance critical tasks in C++ and other things in a KISS language would be great.

Maybe you should start with KISS when writing your posts wink *evil grin*

The KISS way to say it would be: "C++ is fine, just let things be and there is nothing wrong with it."

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Re: Feasibility of moding teeworlds without C++?

KISS has nothing (or very few) to see with the programming languages used.

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Re: Feasibility of moding teeworlds without C++?

If you find any ppl who want to rewrite teeworlds using any other language, go on. But I wouldn't waste so much time to port it to Educational languages... Better rewrite it for android wink

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