Should we fork a Mod-friendly version of Teeworlds? (Page 2 of 4)

A Client loader would have more or less the same drawbacks as sending lua scripts to the client.
You can't be really sure that stuff is safe and works well. I would even go for lua scripting than sending some piece of binarys over the network lol. (Also that amount of administration would be much lower but well who would do that at all..)
Also it would be quite useless to add a client loader.. downloading a client for downloading another client?

Never really heard of Lua. Just disregarded it cause from what I read, it sounded like it would require a lot of changes. Looks like I am mistaken. In terms of making sure it is safe, in most open source/open market it is impossible to guarantee the safely of a program but you have methods to mitigate the risk. For instance, Apple verify's every app submitted whereas Android allows the community to rate/comment on the apps. The exact same philosophy can be applied to managing the custom mods. Either you can have volunteers verifying the client is safe or you can allow for some form of rating/flagging system. I personally would recommend the first one as it is more thorough. And because there will only be a hand fill of modes, this is a very feasible solution.

I'm not too sure about your last comment. In the simplest form, (but I am sure there are far better methods to implement this) you have a menu of all verified client mods. You select "Nodes", which then proceeds to download the nodes binary from the TW server, if you don't have it already. Once complete, it closes the vanilla client and runs the Nodes client.... Think Half Life modes.  So you are downloading a client, to play. There is no other level.

If they don't wanna play vanilla, they can play some other game. Nobody is forcing anyone to play vanilla, but i think trying to gain more people into mods is not the goal we're trying to achieve here. Teeworlds is standart gametypes, everything else is only based on Teeworlds. So yeah, it does make sense.

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75% of the community will leave and the community will be broken.
Besides, long as Teeworlds is open source, there will be mods!
This is just plain stupid. If people make a game, and then give the source to people, what should they expect, but to get modified versions of the same thing, but modified to suit their and their friends purpose.

So devs, are you going to hide your game's source code from the public, /and/or/ban mods?
If you do, then people will stop and stay at a version that can be modded.
Or, people will make a new Teeworlds with source code, (if it is available) and people that love modified Teeworlds will go somewhere like that.

So please, since mods make Teeworlds players happy, please leave the source open! And do not use another way to ban mods... PLEASE

(No offense Developers, I still admire everything you've done for this magnificent game.)

Haha, this could be a desperated try to safe teeworlds.
But if it fails, teeworlds will die for sure without any glory

Don't be confused between the general devs/vanilla players opinion and yemDX trolling. Learn to recognize baits.

Back to topic.

Not my work, but polls on this kind of topics are totally irrelevant imo.

The vanilla gameplay should get the most possible attention in developing. Mods are something which make the game more attractive to new players and they can be a lot of fun (fly or race for example) but nothing can beat vanilla.
But i would like to have a very 'modfriendly' kind of coding and more possibilities.

Well most of the arguments of the video were irrelevant. We don't care who made the mods, it's not the point. I'd rather have it typed down to be able to answer them though. I don't quite get the point of a video.

Nobody is asking that Teeworlds add every silly idea (you'd think someone had suggested rainbow butterfly powerups the way people are acting), or that Teeworlds change its overall vision.

Just simple additions that might help some modders should be given a little more weight in consideration, because some mods have, in my opinion, outshone Teeworlds itself.

I mean that's it. That's all any of the reasonable people are asking.

Even though I am in full support of the mod community, I agree with Slayer on this. Teeworlds developers shouldn't specifically be spending time on mod features. However, having said that, I do feel that the developers should take modders into consideration when coding.

I don't know why we still having this discussion, the developers have agreed to implement mod related features as long as it is coded well. Which is completely reasonable as long as they are true to their word. So I suggest we get a group of modders together who are interested in making Teeworlds more mod-friendly and we come up with ideas to achieve this and the best solution in doing so. Once we have gotten a list we can proposition the developers to see if they are satisfied with the idea and the method we came up with, then proceed from there.

This achieves the exact same result as what fisted wanted, but without having to  fork from teeworlds.

I'll try to make my comments about your unnecessary vid, but i only understood like half of what you said. You could have just typed out what you said instead of making a random video. Whatever. I'm sure it is because you want people to give you more views for ad revenue or something.

Ctf and iddrace are pretty different actually. Ctf mod is a pretty stable mod that involves team play and skill with all weapons, as well as good movement. iDDRace is a solo mod of another mod where you do a team ddrace map because you are not social enough to play with another person, or just hate people and are a loner, idk, doesn't matter. You can also use weird cheats and bugs, added to the mod as features, to skip parts of the map because you aren't good enough to gain some skill and do parts correctly. The mod is also very buggy, or at least was the last time i played it. An unstable and glitchy mod of another mod is not one that should be accepted into official development or even supported, if that is what you are getting at. Shows how much you care about teeworlds by not knowing the name of the creators

Nobody is telling you not to play mods either. Go for it. I haven't seen that said anywhere. What the vanilla players and devs are saying, is that they don't feel like or have the time to give a lot of support to mods, as well as to what extent they should support mods, if at all. If mods developers could help balance the load devs have on 0.7 and future updates, there can be time for discussion on the topic of supporting mods and even pitch in ideas for simple supports on mods, such as  Race or even DDRace. Personally, I would like to see Fly ctf support. Even though fly maps work with ctf mod, I think teleport tiles don't work. I also like how it counts hooking or bumping a tee into spikes as a kill.

I have no idea what you were trying to say about Christian framing an atheist for not being religious. You could use a dictionary and realize that is what atheist means. What does that even have to do with yemDX and vanilla players?