[ Closed ] [POLL] Increase Max Players (Page 2 of 3)

I lol'd.

No. It doesn't work like that. Server owners will never think this way, always the way "uuuh if more people want to join hell why not it's gonna be fun being 32 on dm1 hurp durp".

And then you have two servers with 30 people and all the servers are empty. GG.

Yes, it would be easy to implement, and yes, like Bear said, easy implementation doesn't mean unaffected performances. There's also stuff like memory you statically allow for 32 players - even if in the end it's going to be 2v2.

That's the original suggestion. Increase the number of players but not the number of characters.
But everytime you increase that the modders will be like "durp f*** you I also want more characters" or "why not 128?".

Not all of them. The lousy part is usually not the best.

I'm pretty much okay to add more spectators, even though I don't really think there's a need.

You honestly dont find yourself slightly biased right now?
Let me remind you, one important fact. Vanilla is the stem of TW!
All those good/bad mods are just "branches"

And all those are growing into thick bizarre branches, all in their own twisted direction.
Making it unbearable for the stem to grow higher!

Vanilla was great, and it would have been even greater by now.
Its MOD-paradox, and a current way of thinking.
a MOD-free TW would have a potential the MODS never will have.

To be honest, i think most of the mods are small irritating black holes in the universe of TW, sucking in the newbies, and misleading them to think that "this" is teeworlds!

But hey, thats only my opinion!

It wasn't looked over. Sorry, that's unfortunately not a simple solution. You can just bypass it on every modified server.

I have an other suggestion, instead of increase the number of players, could we increase the numbers of characters handled by the client ?

A 'little' modification to allow 'non player characters', this entities wouldn't be display in the scoreboard, but they can move, hook, speak, shoot (...) like a real player.

With this modification, a server can add npc with dialogs (we can imagine a realistic quest system, or trading system), or monsters and neutral entities, or tower like node mode, etc ... Finally the maximum number of players is 16, but there are like 128 entities managed by the server, and the client can handled it correctly.

I'm asking to just allow non player characters, not implement it. What do you think about that ?

I posted in this thread because we speak about players and characters, but maybe Its better to create a new thread, If I do it wrong, I'm sorry.

You probably misunderstood me. The fact it can be bypassed by all the servers is just another problem.

It's also not as simple as you think at all. If the mapper set the amount of player/characters they want to allow on their servers, you would need to dynamically allow the memory space for X players including Y characters every time we're done loading a map.

16 players.
Let it be.

The only way vanilla servers can bypass it will be to edit the original map, but the vast majority wont do that, and who cares about the few who do. You don't want to not implement a highly beneficial feature just because a few people wont adhere to it.

It is a standard with custom maps to have the map maker set the map player limit. Look at War3, Starcraft etc etc. Even though it may not be a simple task, it would be worth looking into.

... I used those two as an example as they are the most famous for it. The list is endless and ranges from the Widelands http://wl.widelands.org/ (dont ask me what game that is, its just the crappiest game I could find that offers dynamic map sizes) to classics like red alert. So no I am not trying to hold teeworlds to the same standards as Blizzard games.

I just don't understand you. You went on a rant about how the gameplay is going to shit because server sizes are too big for the smaller maps. Which I agree with as having the same amount of people player ctf5 as ctf1 is absurd because they so significantly different in size. Therefore the ONLY way to fix is, is by having the player limit set by the maps rather than the server. Otherwise you put massive restrictions on what sort of map you can create as it has to be designed for the current server limit, meaning no variety.

And I don't think programming this would be that difficult at all, but I will speak with the developers and get their opinion.

Why don't you go ahead and code one then. Have fun replacing everything while not making the code a mess.