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Hello guys,

after reading this topic about a way to monitor and administrate servers, I realized there is the need for administration tools for teeworlds. There are already solutions for this. For example, a lot of server hosters have created a web interface, which allows the user to create servers with different configuration files, and to terminate or restart those servers. Also tools like Teeworlds Server Manager have been created to simplify the process of managing server on your local computer.

However, these tools lack one major aspect, which is the possibility to control the server while it is running. This is due to the fact, that at the moment it is not possible to communicate with the teeworlds server from the outside in another way than connecting to it is a usual client. Of course creating a program which connects to the server and then to the rcon console as a usual client and then provides a user interface or an API or whatever would be a possible solution, but there are several major disadvantages to this method:

• Connecting to the server is not possible if all 16 slots are already used

• While administrating, there are only 15 slots available for players

• A lot of unnecessary data is sent to both server and administration client (which means waste of bandwidth)

All of these issues can be avoided be providing a different method to connect to the server, for example support for telnet. Also, by using this (or a similar) method, It would be easy for the community to write their own administrating programs, interfaces or bots, without having to know too much about the teeworlds protocol itself, which would probably cause a lot of programs like i mentioned before to be created, and those that already exist would probably be enhanced. I believe this would all result in a strongly improved usability of the teeworlds server.

There is already an attempt to implement telnet support, but it was done for a much older version of teeworlds, and it had some problems and thus never got included in the official teeworlds code. You can find the corresponding topic here.

This statement made by Matricks as an answer to the topic supports my opinion that this feature should get implemented.
However the code supplied in the patch files in this topic would need to be redone completely, because, as mentioned before it was created for an older version (before the code was refactored), and because the issues this attempt has would need to be solved.

I hope I was successful in explaining why this feature is needed in teeworlds, and I am looking forward to reading your opinions about this topic.

Kind regards,

ghost

Hello guys,

I came to the decision to create this topic after reading another topic about a problem with a mod. In my opinion it is good that mods are not supported at all by the official teeworlds team(meaning support staff and mods and so on...).

But there is one downside to this:
A lot of new mods are presented here, because they might get recognized a lot by that, so the people learn about the mods here in the first place. I believe it's obvious that they will create a thread here, too, if they have a problem with that certain mod. The problem with this is, that we don't want to support the mods, so we don't give them any answers. But those people don't see our reasons for that, thus they will always do it again, and also they are irritated a lot, and maybe even angry about the community being so harsh to them, which is obviously not what we wanted to cause in the first place...

Now don't get me wrong, I am absolutely not fighting for mods being supported. But also I am completely disaffected with the current situation.

Two solutions came to my mind, which could solve this problem:

1. Remove mods from the official forum completely, which means that mods may not be promoted here anymore. By doing this the official forum could focus more on the official game and we probably would not have to deal with people asking for support for mods anymore. It might also be helpful in encouraging people to play vanilla teeworlds instead of mods, because here they will find a large, and what is most important, the official community. The problem with this solution is that it might be hard to get it done. There are so many posts about mods in the content other section, and people are used to that very much.

2. Create a new section in the Community creations area which would only deal with mods(Content: Mods). Questions in this area should not be answered by the official community, but by the people who are into that certain mod. By this we could keep questions about mods separated from questions about the official teeworlds, and we would not have to care about all thiese questions about mods anymore. Maybe the team of moderators should then be supported by one more, who should focus on that section, maybe one who himself is into the mod community. Though I don't know if this solution collides with the credo of the official teeworlds team "mods are not supported" too much.

I personal would prefer the first solution, but as I said, I am really in doubt if it is possible(but still I think it's the right thing to do, if mods are not supported, they should not be on the forum at all...).

My request is now that you give your opinons about that topic here, tell me what you think about that. Do you have any further ideas how to solve the problem? Or do you think it's not a problem at all? Whatever your opinion is about that topic, please tell about it in this thread.

Thank you in advance,

ghost